Discussion Why Alien Should Be Banned.

[BillStickers]

Here ill make a post here addressing each issue and will update it as time goes.
NOTE* Aliens hitbox is most like a females.
Lets first address 114 as TRIBORG:
Jaqui D3's it for free
Alien ducks it.
Mileena D3s/Ball rolls this for free
Tanya Bf4s this
Kitana d1s this.
Cassie D4's this...
Scorpion D4s AND slides this...
Dvorah D2s this...
I could go on but for now since these characters all duck a mid AND GET A PUNISH? lets ban these characters. Moving on to The overhead now in a new post

Alien after Jax does F21 into d1 into B2 will duck the overhead IF YOU DO IT EXACTLY AS SUCH. HOWEVER, if you literally do a slight microdash forward into B2, it connects.....
but if we want to talk about more overheads, DO Jaquis B2 on characters as they d4 (A.KA johnny or Mileena after a d3 d4 or ball roll) and watch happens
yeah ban johnny and Mileena. Moving on.

I cant even consistently replicate what happened in the video with Kotal Kahn (1 out of like every 20 tries), which means that was a LUCKY SHOT by the Alien player.
I got this once only as mileena
Other characters (like kitana Outlaw erron kungjin) dodge the first part and stuff the second part completely. Yeah ban those chars too please... Moving on

Wait are you seriously enumerating all of MKX's hitbox bugs just to vindicate Alien? THANK YOU! I mean, sure, that's a huge A-bomb to drop just to save your broke ass character, but maybe this will finally get NRS to take these issues seriously!

 

[OnlineSkunk]

none of this should happen with any character including females characters, what gives Alien or females privilege to have smaller hurtboxex?

 

[SonicFox5000]

Wait are you seriously enumerating all of MKX's hitbox bugs just to vindicate Alien? THANK YOU! I mean, sure, that's a huge A-bomb to drop just to save your broke ass character, but maybe this will finally get NRS to take these issues seriously!

excuse me attention whore, if we are going to go off banning characters for these hitbox issues then ban the following;
Jaqui
Mileena
Cassie
Alien
Kitana
These characters are all *TECHNICALLY* female hitboxes. Noticing a little pattern? Dont pop off on me when I actually go out of my way to address meaningless bugs.

 

[STRYKIE]

When someone uses their seasoned knowledge to demonstrate "character exclusive broken algorithms" to further a banning agenda which may have several negative repercussions on the competitive future of the game and then get shown how wrong they are by a furry teenager who teabags mid-match and will probably beat them in pools 3-0 with his pocket Jacqui at his next major:

 

[WakeUp DP]

Oh hey lets nerf the robots instead.

 

[OnlineSkunk]

Cassie Cage, Kung Lao, and Johnny Cage.

Pre-patch Kung Lao maybe 6-4 at most but Kung Lao depends heavily on other players mistake/triguarding so I don't think so...

 

[SonicFox5000]

Also id like to argue @Take$$$ that this 11 bug is actually BENEFICIAL for triborg. BECAUSE this tech ONLY works if Alien is BLOCKING. If Alien is not blocking, it will get hit like any other character as a standard mid. SO in return, since you KNOW he has to wait to keep blocking all 3 parts, especially the 3rd part low, you can get better pressure. You can now stagger into F4 or INto an overhead since Aliens are going to be wanting to bait this.

 

[navaroNe]

Lol Mids and OHs

lows aren't safe either lol

 

[Take$$$]

Also id like to argue @Take$$$ that this 11 bug is actually BENEFICIAL for triborg. BECAUSE this tech ONLY works if Alien is BLOCKING. If Alien is not blocking, it will get hit like any other character as a standard mid. SO in return, since you KNOW he has to wait to keep blocking all 3 parts, especially the 3rd part low, you can get better pressure. You can now stagger into F4 or INto an overhead since Aliens are going to be wanting to bait this.

Gonna have to give me a bit, in a set with KP

 

[God Confirm]

False. Kung Lao is actually dead and has been removed from the game sir

no

 

[Dinosaur]

Guys alien is fine, only one person is winning w him


In related news Aquaman was fine and so was kenshi mk9. All fair and balanced because only one person is doing well w them


#WORSTLOGICEVERRRRRRRR

dragons reading this like

 

[Take$$$]

Also @navaroNe posted some interesting videos

@SonicFox5000

 

[Take$$$]

Also id like to argue @Take$$$ that this 11 bug is actually BENEFICIAL for triborg. BECAUSE this tech ONLY works if Alien is BLOCKING. If Alien is not blocking, it will get hit like any other character as a standard mid. SO in return, since you KNOW he has to wait to keep blocking all 3 parts, especially the 3rd part low, you can get better pressure. You can now stagger into F4 or INto an overhead since Aliens are going to be wanting to bait this.

I mean isn't this all basically down to the match and whos playing in it? Sure there are those options, but then there are also the times where these glitches happen and it costs you the match.

 

[x TeeJay o]

Lololol he can make lows whiff? Im out

 

[ChoseDeath]

The idea of his evasive blocking does indeed exist, but in a projectile war, it is the most dumbest thing to use (as in bad) because if I KNOW you are going to shoot a projectile at me, not only does the evasive blocking tech put me at risk of blocking the projectile, but it slows my movement down as well. I am far better off just normally crouching or using d4 db3 or bf1 to get across these projectiles rather than block it.

OH and to address MY video on the "game breaking alien" tech (A title in all honesty for click bait), about 5 other characters can do this, WITHOUT having to meet a requirement. Take Kenshis Ji1 to the lab, take Cassies Ji2 to the lab, and Take Kung laos Ji2 to the lab. They all can do this as well, WITHOUT requirement. But thats the thing. The tech is rather pointless to be able to do it because it still puts you at risk of getting hit, and to intentionally keep going for it is fatal. Trust me, I did actual matches trying to abuse this and first, i couldnt even hit this by itself 90% of the time, and when I did, I always got punished for whiffing after doing it on the ground since you CANNOT BLOCK. Only cancel into an attack. AND ON TOP OF THAT, it disables if you land a ji3 (may I add an amazing tool that id rather not get rid of for a bug that can easily get me killed for doing it).

So ive addressed all your points with actual data, PLEASE elaborate on why Alien should be banned when lots of other characters can do similar things???

BECAUSE NONE OF THESE OTHER CHARACTERS HELPED MAKE "ALIEN: RESURRECTION"

Ban Alien.

I kid of course, I voted "no."

 

[myri]

At first I was indifferent about whether or not Alien should be banned or not but now that I've thought about it I think banning the character is the worst thing you could do in a situation like this.

Think about it like this:

You want to ban Alien from tournaments UNTIL NRS fix his multiple issues. Well for starters we have no idea when or even if NRS will decide to implement fixes. That being the case do we ban Alien forever if no fixes ever come? How long should we ban him for while we wait to see if fixes come? How about a month? Two months? Six months? There's no telling how long we could be waiting. In the time that the character would be banned, no one would be playing him because it serves no purpose in a tournament setting and after x amount of time if fixes do come then no one will be bothered with playing the character. I find it hard to see the point in going back to a character after months of having not played it and having put a tonne of time and effort into other characters.

Essentially you're not helping Alien by banning him, you're pretty much just killing him off entirely.

Also I tend to agree with Sonic, this game is full of broken shit, why are we focusing on Alien only?

 

[KGA Prosaic]

Something I noticed when I was looking over Sonic's list is that he mention we ban other characters because they can do what Alien does. Different characters each time, Mileena was mention a few more times as well. But none were nearly mention as much as Alien. Who can do all of these. Some minor contradiction was also mention. Where Jax should do a micro dash to beat out the Alien bug. Basically stating Jax should learn the MU, my words not his. Now what I think is funny is his point on why blocking low to make projectiles whiff isnt viable. He could risk just blocking and losing mobility when he should just duck from the start. How I took this is Jax should learn the MU against Alien to avoid this bug from happening but Alien should bother utilizing this pretty effective tool because of risk. M'kay.

 

[ChoseDeath]

At first I was indifferent about whether or not Alien should be banned or not but now that I've thought about it I think banning the character is the worst thing you could do in a situation like this.

Think about it like this:

You want to ban Alien from tournaments UNTIL NRS fix his multiple issues. Well for starters we have no idea when or even if NRS will decide to implement fixes. That being the case do we ban Alien forever if no fixes ever come? How long should we ban him for while we wait to see if fixes come? How about a month? Two months? Six months? There's no telling how long we could be waiting. In the time that the character would be banned, no one would be playing him because it serves no purpose in a tournament setting and after x amount of time if fixes do come then no one will be bothered with playing the character. I find it hard to see the point in going back to a character after months of having not played it and having put a tonne of time and effort into other characters.

Essentially you're not helping Alien by banning him, you're pretty much just killing him off entirely.

Also I tend to agree with Sonic, this game is full of broken shit, why are we focusing on Alien only?

Absolutely agree 100%

 

[SonicFox5000]

Also @navaroNe posted some interesting videos

@SonicFox5000

So my theory on evasive blocking holds true. Switching between high and low block briefly pushes his hurtbox backward when it shouldnt be this way. I still dont think its something intentional you can do (you are still having to guess between overhead and low) and SHOULD be addressed, but this is not banworthy at all. Just makes her harder to hit. Gotta keep in mind that this is now an option Alien has.

 

[Take$$$]

So my theory on evasive blocking holds true. Switching between high and low block briefly pushes his hurtbox backward when it shouldnt be this way. I still dont think its something intentional you can do (you are still having to guess between overhead and low) and SHOULD be addressed, but this is not banworthy at all. Just makes her harder to hit. Gotta keep in mind that this is now an option Alien has.

It's just everything about him put together, from his raw strength to these hurtbox glitches that give him all of these options unique only to him... it's just too much for one character. No one character has all these hurtbox glitches combined.

 

[Rude]

All this regulating makes my peen hard.

 

[SonicFox5000]

It's just everything about him put together, from his raw strength to these hurtbox glitches that give him all of these options unique only to him... it's just too much for one character. No one character has all these hurtbox glitches combined.

Piercing mileena and shotgun jaqui say hi....
Also this is absolutely NOT too much. It just means you have to adjust your overheads or lows in case this occurs, and an easy answer to that is microstep into a mixup. 9/10 times, the spacing you were looking at for those mixups would never hit because you are in NEUTRAL. If this was a consistent problem say on okizemi, its potentislly banworthy yea, but essentially, your overhead whiffs because its not connecting with her hurtbox. Which means, you need to alter spacing.
5 minutes in the lab does the trick

 

[navaroNe]

@SonicFox5000 yeah it basically means that you have to get a little closer than you normally would to do certain moves especially pokes since his hitbox can move backwards a tad if he crouches at the right time, which could be a pretty long list of moves once it's all fleshed out. I don't like uppy closey time with Alien but gonna have to keep this in mind and hope it gets fixed. Here's him doing it with Sub's D4

Seems like something that could happen unintentionally quite a bit and pretty much go unnoticed but there's some big money on the line with this game so I know if I was a hardcore competitor and having to compete against him I would want it fixed asap.

 

[SonicFox5000]

Also his raw damage is based off of you sitting in acid, which in point, is YOUR fault and not his. There are billions of meter and meterlesss options out of it but everybody seems far too lazy to goto training mode nowadays.

 

[SonicFox5000]

@SonicFox5000 yeah it basically means that you have to get a little closer than you normally would to do certain moves especially pokes since his hitbox can move backwards a tad if he crouches at the right time, which could be a pretty long list of moves once it's all fleshed out. I don't like uppy closey time with Alien but gonna have to keep this in mind and hope it gets fixed. Here's him doing it with Sub's D4

Seems like something that could happen unintentionally quite a bit and pretty much go unnoticed but there's some big money on the line with this game so I know if I was a hardcore competitor and having to compete against him I would want it fixed asap.

I agree it shouldnt stay, but at the same time, it is not warranted a ban either. Many things (not just alien) has to go, but none if it warrants bans. The closest banworthy character IMO was pre-pre patch tanya lol