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Who's Next? Leatherface, Xenomorph, Bo' Rai Cho & Tri-Borg Are Koming to MKX in 2016!!

Tweedy

Noob
I will never understand the people complaining about the Barakien or whatever it will be called.

Leatherface is lame for obvious reasons.

He's not supernatural. How is he's supposed to compete with Mortal Kombat characters? Because he has a chainsaw? Bitch, please. With Jason, they were able to make three variations that all made sense. What will the Leatherface ones be? Chainsaw, chainsaw, and chainsaw? lol

But the Baraka + Alien monster thing? Dude, how is that not badass? The only real complaint I could see is that he's not a Mortal Kombat character, but I mean........ If they were gonna include characters that aren't canon, which they are, this thing seems pretty cool. Not to mention pretty innovative as well.

I'm just happy that it wasn't Michael Myers and Leatherface, or the Scream ghost dude and Leatherface lol.

Bo Rai Cho is a great character. I think that the people who don't like him, take the lore and this series way too seriously. This series is supposed to be goofy and super violent. I just hope he doesn't have like fart cancels that jail or something.

Why does everyone think that the grey robot is Smoke? Has this been confirmed? I guess it's because he's been in these games as a robot before, but from watching that trailer, i'm not entirely sure that's who it is.

What's disappointing me is that really cool characters like Cyrax and Sektor are demoted to variations, while a character like Leatherface gets to be an entire character. Why couldn't he just be like one of Jason's variations or something? Hopefully the variations with Tri-borg are way different.
 

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
I love how there not being any character you're interested in in KP2 = you apparently can't continue to play who you already main, but instead must quit the game.

Boo-fucking-hoo.

And anyone who thinks Alien and Leatherface will sell the least =
That's....not even close. Noone's saying it's impossible for them to continue playing, they're saying they don't want to or there's no reason for them to continue playing because they were waiting to play their favourite character. Can you really blame people for being mad that they put in ANOTHER 2 guest characters as well as one of the most controversial characters from past MKs considering the amount of people that think he's a joke over characters that, you know, are actually from MK? I'm not going to keep playing Cybernetic because I didn't play MKX to play Cybernetic, I just ended up playing him because Fujin wasn't in it and he's just the closest thing to my preferred character archetype. The game isn't fun enough for me to continue playing it and I'm not playing for anything now so why bother?
 
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Eldriken

Guest
So did someone make a post like this for every mk game that came out after mk1 that added new characters? Or were people fine w new characters up to this point?
I was wondering the same thing. How do the new MK characters (non-guest) in X not fit the bill, yet with every brand new addition in previous games, no one was up in arms saying "DIS NOT MK NINJARS AND BROOCE REES ONLY".

Sure, there's what some would consider an excess of guest characters in this game, but most of the new additions to MK's lore are pretty fucking awesome.
 

esc1

95% of TYM discussion: "It's fine"
Cyrax variation better be good!

Can't believe they wasted a spot on Leatherface :DOGE
 
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Eldriken

Guest
That's....not even close. Noone's saying it's impossible for them to continue playing, they're saying they don't want to or there's no reason for them to continue playing because they were waiting to play their favourite character. Can you really blame people for being mad that they put in ANOTHER 2 guest characters as well as one of the most controversial characters from past MKs considering the amount of people that think he's a joke over characters that, you know, are actually from MK? I'm not going to keep playing Cybernetic because I didn't play MKX to play Cybernetic, I just ended up playing him because Fujin wasn't in it and he's just the closest thing to my preferred character archetype. The game isn't fun enough for me to continue playing it and I'm not playing for anything now so why bother?
You and others can feel however you want. WB/NRS are aiming to make money and guest characters have ALWAYS provided that. People don't like it, I know. So what? They didn't like it in MK9 and guess what? Injustice got Scorpion and he sold wonderfully. People didn't like it in Injustice and guess what? MKX has Jason and Predator and apparently did well enough to cause them to bring in two more guest characters.

Sorry if folks didn't get who they wanted. But that's life. Shouldn't have gotten your hopes so high. *shrug*
 

RM_NINfan101

Nine Inch Nails fan from Metro Detroit, Michigan
So it's been a day. And some thoughts have changed slightly but before I go on those I wanna say a few things.

We are actually a part of their demographic lol they obviously still support the tournament scene. Whether some of the DLC is, is a different story. I do have a sharp fear that WB one day might not want to bother with the competitive aspect any longer and NRS will have to go along that route. But I would like to think NRS has enough creative control in how they make their game that this isn't the case. I would argue anyone interested in MK is "a part of their demographic" from a business standpoint.

I think people need to accept also, that this is as much WBGames's title as it is NRS. While WBGames may be the publisher, the publisher definitely has a large influence. I dunno why some people just realized this now, but they should have when microtransactions, easy fatalities and what have you were introduced. I can certainly tell you that Easy Fatalities is so lol worthy that NRS would not put that in except at the behest of the publisher. Boon always loved secrets.

I also think a large amount of the backlash (I don't see as many people digging this pack than you all do, then again I avoid YT comments like the plague. There are things to like about this pack though) is due to the excessive trolling of Boon. Because people get their hopes up to a wide margin only to see Leatherface instead of Smoke. Jason instead of Jade and so on and so forth.

There is, IMO a difference between the following three categories, even if they share similar traits. MK fan, competitive player, and casual.

Competitive players won't care too much overall about what characters get in if they like the main game because they're playing it for money.

MK fans who grew up with the series from their childhoods.

Casuals, who are people they are trying to bring in to buy their next installments as well as the current game. (though they have done a so-so job of this at best in MKX. Pretty sure there are few casuals left with Fallout 4, MGSV, and more on the horizon. Majority don't stick around past the initial release, and Kombat Pack 1 was offered at release, something to note.)

So, with all of that in mind, it does soften the blows a tad. Onto the characters themselves in the next post.
 

GuerillaTactix

#bufftakeda
Could be there'll be a kp3. ESL could go another season. If that's the case they're probably just holding on to the best characters to keep us thirsty. Think of how much they make off these dlc characters. The framework is built. It probably isn't that be difficult to make these new characters.
 

Cossner

King of the Jobbers 2015
Administrator
That's....not even close. Noone's saying it's impossible for them to continue playing, they're saying they don't want to or there's no reason for them to continue playing because they were waiting to play their favourite character. Can you really blame people for being mad that they put in ANOTHER 2 guest characters as well as one of the most controversial characters from past MKs considering the amount of people that think he's a joke over characters that, you know, are actually from MK? I'm not going to keep playing Cybernetic because I didn't play MKX to play Cybernetic, I just ended up playing him because Fujin wasn't in it and he's just the closest thing to my preferred character archetype. The game isn't fun enough for me to continue playing it and I'm not playing for anything now so why bother?
Yes, I can blame them because its the most stupid first world problem to have.

If just the existence of a character in the selection screen stops your enjoyment of the game, maybe you shouldnt be posting on TYM in the first place.

Nothing wrong with saying "I dislike this character", but literally saying the game is dead and they ruined your life makes me wanna poke my eyes out. There's already a forum for that it's called themortalkombat.com
 
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So did someone make a post like this for every mk game that came out after mk1 that added new characters? Or were people fine w new characters up to this point?
Yep. People were posting on TYM when MK2 came out... And when MK2 came out the franchise had a vast established character roster, it wasn't relatively new and the addition of new characters was totally the same thing as it is in 2015, and the new characters totally meant that characters from MK1 were left out.

Jesus...
 

GOOD DRAGON

Awesometacular
I will never understand the people complaining about the Barakien or whatever it will be called.

Leatherface is lame for obvious reasons.

He's not supernatural. How is he's supposed to compete with Mortal Kombat characters? Because he has a chainsaw? Bitch, please. With Jason, they were able to make three variations that all made sense. What will the Leatherface ones be? Chainsaw, chainsaw, and chainsaw? lol

But the Baraka + Alien monster thing? Dude, how is that not badass? The only real complaint I could see is that he's not a Mortal Kombat character, but I mean........ If they were gonna include characters that aren't canon, which they are, this thing seems pretty cool. Not to mention pretty innovative as well.

I'm just happy that it wasn't Michael Myers and Leatherface, or the Scream ghost dude and Leatherface lol.

Bo Rai Cho is a great character. I think that the people who don't like him, take the lore and this series way too seriously. This series is supposed to be goofy and super violent. I just hope he doesn't have like fart cancels that jail or something.

Why does everyone think that the grey robot is Smoke? Has this been confirmed? I guess it's because he's been in these games as a robot before, but from watching that trailer, i'm not entirely sure that's who it is.

What's disappointing me is that really cool characters like Cyrax and Sektor are demoted to variations, while a character like Leatherface gets to be an entire character. Why couldn't he just be like one of Jason's variations or something? Hopefully the variations with Tri-borg are way different.
Has anyone thought about this and this is purely hypothetical but could leather face be shang tsung? the same way they added joker as a shang tsung fatality in mk9. Shang could literally be one of his variations. I really cant think of 3 variation of leather face and whats the point when jasons there plus there has to be more to be revealed because this kombat pack isnt even out till next year. Food for thought
 
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Hexin_Wishes

Likes nerds with big ...
Annoyed that the characters I want come later in the release (with Xenraka being dead last).

Has anyone thought about this and this is purely hypothetical but could leather face be shang tsung? the same way they added joker as a shang tsung fatality in mk9. Shang could literally be one of his variations. I really cant think of 3 variation of leather face and whats the point when jasons there plus there is has to be more to be revealed because this kombat pack isnt even out till next year. Food for thought
Wouldn't that induce more rage since then Shang would be joining the 1/3 squad along with Jade, Cyrax, Sektor, Noob (Stunt Double anyone?) and probably Baraka?
 
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Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
You and others can feel however you want. WB/NRS are aiming to make money and guest characters have ALWAYS provided that. People don't like it, I know. So what? They didn't like it in MK9 and guess what? Injustice got Scorpion and he sold wonderfully. People didn't like it in Injustice and guess what? MKX has Jason and Predator and apparently did well enough to cause them to bring in two more guest characters.

Sorry if folks didn't get who they wanted. But that's life. Shouldn't have gotten your hopes so high. *shrug*
I get that they're all about the money, that's why some are calling them NR$ now lol. You're lucky, you get your characters in almost every game, whereas I've never had the chance to play my character and I would've thought with Fujin being a fan favourite and all that he had a good chance of being in. It makes no sense to me why they'd put Bo Rai Cho in instead considering how many people dislike him. Do you not see why I thought Fujin was a sure thing? Even then I was only like 60% sure he'd be in KP2 because they've done everything they can to not put him in at this point hahaha. You can trivialize my disappointment if you want but you don't really get it.
Yes, I can blame them because its the most stupid first world problem to have.

If just the existence of a character in the selection screen stops your enjoyment of the game, maybe you shouldnt be posting on TYM in the first place.
Oh how stupid of us to want MK characters in an MK game, I'm sorry our simple request is so idiotic in your eyes. An eighth of the roster consists of guests characters now but that's fiiiiiiine, we should all just sit back and enjoy the random characters being thrown in probably with little addition to the lore/storyline instead of wanting them to add more to the characters they already have that actually have something to do with MK. S'all good man, I looooooooove random chainsaw guy and alien alreadyyyyyy. Bo Rai Cho is just the cherry on top mannnn.

I didn't say one character being in the game completely stops my enjoyment of the game, I'm still going to feel the same way about the game even if Fujin is in it (unless they make some good balance changes), but having the one character I actually want to play in it makes it more enjoyable. It's not like I'm trying to dislike the rest of the roster, they're just not that exciting to me. You're lucky since you actually get to play your character in pretty much every game so you probably don't get where I'm coming from.
 

PLAY FOR KEEPSIES

No backsies
What the fuck is this fucking bullshit. Not even a single female. No interesting chars for me at all. I'm so sad bo'rai cho made it out at last. I was really hoping for some frost or sindel.
For the first time i got to say fuck you nrs, i wont buy this shit.
Queen variation on the Xenomorph tho
 

GOOD DRAGON

Awesometacular
Annoyed that the characters I want come later in the game (with Xenraka brin


Wouldn't that induce more rage since then Shang would be joing the 1/3 squad along with Jade, Cyrax, Sektor, Noob (Stunt Double anyone?) and probably Baraka?
Ye but variation shang vs 3 variations of leather face i mean common which sounds more interesting? but i mean leather face could just be 1 variation of shang and the other 2 are just shang soul thieving grandmaster himself
 

RM_NINfan101

Nine Inch Nails fan from Metro Detroit, Michigan
As for the pack itself:

Leatherface: This is by far the most odd inclusion. I say odd not because of the chainsaw (which I could see as a cool inclusion as a weapon but IMO MK could also have a serial killer character and we wouldn't need these horror characters then but WB y'know. Not like Japanese fighting games didn't have them I.E Freeman from Garou: Mark Of The Wolves) but what variations are you gonna give him? I can see him being a lot more like Jason than I kinda want which is why this was the biggest disappointment to me. Yes, I get that a prequel movie is being made for Leatherface (I also expect it to bomb because TCM hasn't been relevant in awhile, and the remakes were NOT good, and TCM was released in the 70's for god's sake, the millennials aren't gonna remember who he is!) but regardless there were better inclusions clearly even with horror characters, and I think that people are seeing a trend with Horror character first, two MK characters in between, another horror character.

In fact Alien and Predator are considered horror movies as much as they are action films, so that Tim Static topic seems more relevant than ever.

Bo Rai Cho: Long overdue IMO. I was actually pissed he wasn't in the initial roster because this guy is the Drunken, Tiger Style motherfucker that not only deserved a remake but a serious tone. I really want to see what they give him. I would be very interested in more Kung-Fu like moves and tributes, and even weapons like his Bo Staff. Make it more like a grounded Dragon Naginata stance and I'm actually sold on him really.

Cyborg: Because I refuse to call him by Tri-Borg lol. Again, long overdue. I always felt Sektor should of been an autolock in this game and to kill him like they did was... Let's just say Story Mode is meh and I just play MK now purely for gameplay. I don't think that's Cyborg Smoke though, I think that's Cyber Subby.

Xeno: I honestly see a lot of potential out of this guest character the most. What would be cooler, is if they made the Xeno have his variations be based on other Outworld Species aside from Tarkatans. I need to see gameplay to really see if I would be interested but yeah it was really well thought out and looked very creative.


OVERALL:

Is it underwhelming? Er... Yes and no.

It's underwhelming to me because I was used to how MK9 had their characters done as DLC which was really fantastic. I honestly think out of any "Kombat Pack" that MK9 clearly had the best one, as you had a completely brand new character in Skarlet, one returning popular character from the 3-D games, and Rain who basically will always be popular for being one of the original "ninja" characters. I didn't like Freddy, but I was willing to accept one guest character. To have four overall in MKX does feel a little cheap and sheepish, mainly because they are beating the movie character idea to death and that will stop selling after awhile. If COD can dip in sales and EA can lose their stock due to Battlefront not selling well, trust me they can lose sales too. It may not be now, but history has shown that it does happen. Aside from that, Tanya, Tremor, BRC and the Borgs were necessary inclusions.

However at the same time, I do like the four characters they chose on the MK side if we combine the two packs. I do think this is a con of the variation system overall in that more characters couldn't be on the roster due to development times and deadlines, but that's something you have to accept and should of by the time the initial roster was released. Xeno and Predator were really cool. Jason sucked and I knew they were gonna struggle putting him in with the rest of the roster so my hopes for Leatherface are low.

Barring KP1, I give KP2 a 6/10. Leatherface obviously hurt it for me, but the other three have promise. I just hope they can actually balance Cyrax because holy fuck we don't need that now... We've come a long way from that nonsense that is Bomb resets.
 

Cossner

King of the Jobbers 2015
Administrator
Oh how stupid of us to want MK characters in an MK game, I'm sorry our simple request is so idiotic in your eyes. An eighth of the roster consists of guests characters now but that's fiiiiiiine, we should all just sit back and enjoy the random characters being thrown in probably with little addition to the lore/storyline instead of wanting them to add more to the characters they already have that actually have something to do with MK. S'all good man, I looooooooove random chainsaw guy and alien alreadyyyyyy. Bo Rai Cho is just the cherry on top mannnn.

I didn't say one character being in the game completely stops my enjoyment of the game, I'm still going to feel the same way about the game even if Fujin is in it (unless they make some good balance changes), but having the one character I actually want to play in it makes it more enjoyable. It's not like I'm trying to dislike the rest of the roster, they're just not that exciting to me. You're lucky since you actually get to play your character in pretty much every game so you probably don't get where I'm coming from.
Yes, it is pretty idiotic. No one is forcing you to purchase anything. If you don't like it, don't play it. The world is not gonna end. I'm not gonna slit my wrists and make a tantrum online because Con-air Nicolas Cage is not in a video game. I could give 2 shits if Reptile is in the game or not, I'll enjoy it anyway because I'm an adult with a normal functioning brain who is entertained when well-designed game mechanics come together. You seem to care too much about the made up stories of pixels in the screen that change colors when you press buttons.
 

GOOD DRAGON

Awesometacular
Technically speaking they have included 5 MK original characters to this KOMBAT PACK 2 the exception being baraka who is sorta merged. So technically people really shouldn't be getting so butt-hurt over leatherface even tho anyone else would have been way better. But Bo rai, sector, cyrax and smoke are still included so stop looking for excuses to be salty about everything.