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Oh, so you're saying making a fairly slow mid into a high would be a bad thing?
By all means, Govenor, continue!
Oh, so you're saying making a fairly slow mid into a high would be a bad thing?
they're saying* also Kung Lao B321 isn't loopable, hat spin cost meter and doesn't jail.
And not every variation of Liu Kang can fireball cancel. Regardless, if we're proposing nerfs, I don't see a problem including ultra top tier Lao in the discussion. Let's get everyone's skin the game and see how eager we are to pull the trigger, shall we?
I just posted here a comparison to how hellfire Scorpion pressure used to be which made him a very good character before and you act like I'm the one asking for nerfs in here, Kung Lao is ultra top tier because of his AA that cost meter right?
I facepalmed so bad after reading this. You're extremely blind, no offnese
Yup. This is purely a product of NRS having too many characters (variations) and no way to balance one without changing another.Bf2 is already safe (in some mus) so there would be no point in making the mb version neutral lol.
I'll live thru nerfs but this will go down as one of the stupid ones.
Because Dragon said Quan was good?
F2 tele cancel is +3 and 112 is +1. B1 is -
Well in that case I guess we better give Lao a low projectile and meterless loopable pressure.
My bad, was slightly off there.
as much as i agree with your post in general, i dont personally agree with the "destroying tempest pressure" part, and b3 being a high it's just a bad idea for me, it's not even a true blockstring from what i remember (you can armor the last hit of b321, correct me if im wrong), and i think it would affect too much his stagger pressure.
The argument that something thats broke is ok because it is hard to do has always been and will always be absolute bullshit. Broke is broke, no matter how easy or hard it is to do consistently.
we're officially presenting Liu Kang strenghts: you can loop f213 fbrc too death on characters who dont have a fast enough normal (6f/7f) or meter to get out. While you loop this you only spend stamina, but dont worry, you can get it back by just doing MB FK wich is +1 ro +2 (?), and put them back in the business, not considering throw / OH / low mixups in the corner. oh, and you also build a fuckton of meter while doing this..."It wasn't meant for anything but an elucidation. Everyone is clamoring for nerfs because frankly, you don't play Liu Kang. You don't know what his weaknesses are, and when presented with some of his strengths, you lose your minds. People start randomly naming off nerfs that will lower him even further relative to 86% or so of the cast in DF, and likely kill a variation or two of Liu's in the process.
You have no perspective. So why not just start reflecting those proposed nerfs onto your own mains? What would the effect be of making Johnny's EX fireball's neutral or minus? How would I feel about my mid-hitting string becoming a high? Etc.
Let's fight shortsightedness with a little introspection, shall we?
And if certain characters need help to have the same options, at minimum, as the rest of the cast by God give it to them. Do you think nerfing Liu to shit is going to make the game fair for Kenshi? Ask @Pig Of The Hut what he thinks about it. What we've got here is a Marcellus Wallace situation. He's getting fucked in the ass by a gang of hillbillies here, brothers and sisters. Is shrinking the dick of the man fucking him an inch or two an answer to his predicament? Or should we unshackle the chains, pop the ball-gag out of his mouth, and give the poor bastard the means to fight back? Not just this inbred rapist, but ALL inbred rapists? (AKA the entire MKX roster).
No sir, say most of you, that's a bridge too far! We need to whack off a good inch of Liu's dick. That'll make things fair! Wouldn't want Kenshi to start posing a problem to OUR mains, now would we?
Hypocrites.
I've had too much to drink, and I don't really give a fuck anyway because I stopped taking this game seriously after the Kano buff-nerf-nerf fiasco, but still the imagery is fun and I do love Pulp Fiction.
So why not buff bottom tier Kenshi? I mean, I try to present something in a fun way, and you just can't follow it.
this thread is not about Kenshi vs Liu Kang, you missed the whole point.
You're getting close, sweetheart. So for those 4 characters, maybe it's a more elegant solution to give them a faster poke?
I disagree with your perspective on why people think this Liu tech is bad for balance, but at least it was well written and fun to readIt wasn't meant for anything but an elucidation. Everyone is clamoring for nerfs because frankly, you don't play Liu Kang. You don't know what his weaknesses are, and when presented with some of his strengths, you lose your minds. People start randomly naming off nerfs that will lower him even further relative to 86% or so of the cast in DF, and likely kill a variation or two of Liu's in the process.
You have no perspective. So why not just start reflecting those proposed nerfs onto your own mains? What would the effect be of making Johnny's EX fireball's neutral or minus? How would I feel about my mid-hitting string becoming a high? Etc.
Let's fight shortsightedness with a little introspection, shall we?
And if certain characters need help to have the same options, at minimum, as the rest of the cast by God give it to them. Do you think nerfing Liu to shit is going to make the game fair for Kenshi? Ask @Pig Of The Hut what he thinks about it. What we've got here is a Marcellus Wallace situation. He's getting fucked in the ass by a gang of hillbillies here, brothers and sisters. Is shrinking the dick of the man fucking him an inch or two an answer to his predicament? Or should we unshackle the chains, pop the ball-gag out of his mouth, and give the poor bastard the means to fight back? Not just this inbred rapist, but ALL inbred rapists? (AKA the entire MKX roster).
No sir, say most of you, that's a bridge too far! We need to whack off a good inch of Liu's dick. That'll make things fair! Wouldn't want Kenshi to start posing a problem to OUR mains, now would we?
Hypocrites.
I've had too much to drink, and I don't really give a fuck anyway because I stopped taking this game seriously after the Kano buff-nerf-nerf fiasco, but still the imagery is fun and I do love Pulp Fiction.
Maybe a change affecting 92 matches isn't at all more elegant than a change affecting 24 IMO
omg.. just please, stop... not this "give 6f d1s to characters" bullshit again.
