Breakthrough - Boneshaper Boneshaper Shinnok is The Best Character in MKX

[Rude]

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why would any shinnok player do at hell spark when you are at the full range of the hell spark? the move cover more than half of the screen and even if you make it whiff he recovers faster on whiff than on block

You're the one that created Max Range non-MB hellspark as this unpunishable thing as a talking point.

That's why we're talking about it. Because you brought it up.

I don't think max range mb Hellspark is that bad. If he whiffs it, at the very least you can run.

If you have a move like Spear or Slide, or a move like Quan's rune, yiu can whiff punish.

Shinnok is good, but he's no Tempest Lao.

 

[Evil_Riu48]

oh well at what point i said you could not punish a non meter burn hell spark? and why is every body talking about hell spark like that is the only good thing bone shaper has lol

 

[Alright RyRy]

oh well at what point i said you could not punish a non meter burn hell spark? and why is every body talking about hell spark like that is the only good thing bone shaper has lol

So what you are saying is because he has a +8 restand he is the best in the game? Because Impostor has the same exact thing.

A SUPER punishable launcher that barley works properly full screen on hit. I think its the best Variation of Shinnok but far from best in the game.

 

[VoyagersRevenge]

I have a pocket BoneShaper. Until he gets nerfed

 

[Braindead]

Also lol at the title having the tag "breakthrough".

 

[SEV]

I don't think he's the best in the game, there are certainly a handful above him, but anyone acting like he isn't one of the best in the game now is in denial.

 

[MrSoloLobo]

Been using him for a couple days now. I agree he's pretty strong but from what I've noticed, he's kinda meter dependant.

 

[Rude]

oh well at what point i said you could not punish a non meter burn hell spark? and why is every body talking about hell spark like that is the only good thing bone shaper has lol

You said it was safe vs many characters.

Which doesn't appear to be accurate.

No one is disputing that he's not quite good.

The best? I don't think so.

I think Tempest Lao has a better case for best than Boneshaper Shinnok.

 

[Evil_Riu48]

So what you are saying is because he has a +8 restand he is the best in the game? Because Impostor has the same exact thing.

A SUPER punishable launcher that barley works properly full screen on hit. I think its the best Variation of Shinnok but far from best in the game.

i am not blind when it comes to mkx i know i maybe wrong on he been the best but far from been the best i am 100% SURE he is not.

 

[Evil_Riu48]

You said it was safe vs many characters.

Which doesn't appear to be accurate.

No one is disputing that he's not quite good.

The best? I don't think so.

I think Tempest Lao has a better case for best than Boneshaper Shinnok.

i agree it wasn't too long ago that i was thinking tempest kung lao was the best in the game and he maybe but bone shapper it is right there next to him if kungblao is the best

 

[Alright RyRy]

i am not blind when it comes to mkx i know i maybe wrong on he been the best but far from been the best i am 100% SURE he is not.

KL
Cassie
D'Vorah
Quan
Raiden
Predator (Early I know)
Kitana

Are better overall characters IMO right now than BS Shinnok. (List in No Order)

 

[SEV]

Kitana

I don't think she's bad, but simma down now.

 

[Helter Skelter]

I'm a long time Bone Shaper player (along with his other variations) and I honestly believe he could do with some minor adjustment.

The whole point of most of the Shinnok players using Bone Shaper to begin with (before all the buffs) was because it was the safest and most hitconfirmable.

Him having a safe 7f low string, a 6f D+1, or a great low profile D+4 aren't the reason why he's too good.

The issue is that currently. He is too safe on block with his Dark Beam and too advantageous on hit with Dark Beam.

The thing is it's actually down to slight misappropriation of frames.

People complain about the standing reset, but fail to realize that the buff that they made to his F2 2,1+3 was a genius concept. They could have lazily went for a straight up damage buff which would in turn made Impostor ridiculous. However, some clever clogs at NRS have that string an actual purpose and gave him better damage output at the same time.

The way Bone Shaper Shinnok plays is actually close to what M.Bison does in SF, where a lot of his game is about locking you down (especially in the corner) with 'safe' pressure based strings/moves. Please check that statement out further if you don't know what I mean.

Dark Beam should be +3f on hit and -6f on block. That's about it.

 

[True]

KL
Cassie
D'Vorah
Quan
Raiden
Predator (Early I know)
Kitana

Are better overall characters IMO right now than BS Shinnok. (List in No Order)

So Kitana is on the list now, because sonic fox won esl with her?? GTFO

 

[Alright RyRy]

So Kitana is on the list now, because sonic fox won esl with her?? GTFO

No, because I watch / play against Kitana Prime a lot. So please stop assuming.

 

[Jaku2011]

I don't know about best, but I thought bone shaper was underrated prepatch, and now post patch, well, you know.

 

[Evil_Riu48]

I'm a long time Bone Shaper player (along with his other variations) and I honestly believe he could do with some minor adjustment.

The whole point of most of the Shinnok players using Bone Shaper to begin with (before all the buffs) was because it was the safest and most hitconfirmable.

Him having a safe 7f low string, a 6f D+1, or a great low profile D+4 aren't the reason why he's too good.

The issue is that currently. He is too safe on block with his Dark Beam and too advantageous on hit with Dark Beam.

The thing is it's actually down to slight misappropriation of frames.

People complain about the standing reset, but fail to realize that the buff that they made to his F2 2,1+3 was a genius concept. They could have lazily went for a straight up damage buff which would in turn made Impostor ridiculous. However, some clever clogs at NRS have that string an actual purpose and gave him better damage output at the same time.

The way Bone Shaper Shinnok plays is actually close to what M.Bison does in SF, where a lot of his game is about locking you down (especially in the corner) with 'safe' pressure based strings/moves. Please check that statement out further if you don't know what I mean.

Dark Beam should be +3f on hit and -6f on block. That's about it.

you are right the fact that dark beam is +8 on hit and only -4 on block it is a big thing on why he is so good in bone shapper. i would have talk about that projectile but i did not want to make my post too long. and to be honest i kind of forgot about it

 

[Deleted member 9158]

I don't know about being the best, but he's a lot better than he was when the game launched.

 

[Farpafraf]

 

[Juggs]

Boneshaper is really good. Is it the best variation? Too early to tell, but it's not Kabal and it's beatable, so level up and just play the game.

 

[Rude]

The Shinnokalypse has begun.

 

[DownfouralitY]

It's the best when people lab it up with a new character, then think they've made some grand discovery that no one knew about. Yes, we all know Shinnok is good now, but he's not he best character in the game. Can I close this now?

Seriously, it's embarrassing as fuck. Shinnok is fine, level up scrubs

 

[DevilMaySpy]

Aaaand, we're reopen for business

 

[xInfra Deadx]

What an embarassment.

 

[Youphemism]

Bone Shaper = Variation

Shinnok = Character

Bone Shaper != Character

Why the fuck can people still not notate BASIC GAME MECHANICS properly after four months of the game being out? Jeez...