This is only partialy true regarding Grandmaster variation. But even here if you watch DJT or Rebelo for example, you'll see 2 very different sub zeros than Tom Brady. Tom is good, but even I find him boring to watch sometimes cause of his extremely conservative zero risk playstyle. That kind of playstyle pays off of course, but is very boring to watch. So here we are again at the center of this "problem" we're talking about.
lol I'm a tier whore and I ain't ashamed!
Tournament players dont play to entertain you or any stream monster, they play to win.
Admittedly, this is a legitimate argument against the tier whoring complaints. Perhaps this is one of the reasons why fighting games aren't as popular as games like League of Legends and Counter Strike, since entertainment is not a priority. They're still hype as hell, though.
My point is, i watch pretty much any other character at a high level and enjoy it. Sub zero is one dimensonal and boring as fuck
Thats what i mean though with some characters the most effective stategy is the fucking lame boring flowchart one. Like zod in injustice, IAZB was extremely execution heavy so it takes skill but its completely fucking braindead on the side of reads and is boring to watch
While I'm not a sports person and don't know what that means... I also don't see the point you're bringing into this discussion. I'm not saying you don't have one. But the statement, as is, is vague in reference to the point of character player potential in fighting games versus cookie cutter play to win styles used that make them less exciting or innovative.
Okay. That I get. But I wasn't gearing the discussion as a means of saying you shouldn't use a character's best tools, but that they have the potential to be used differently (ex: how Tom Brady uses the clone versus how Rebelo and DJT use the clone). It was meant to discuss the fact that characters have so much more potential, but players would rather try and emulate this type of "this is what's best" general consensus when approaching a character and his/her play style because of what they see versus going into the lab and trying to find a play style of their own. I understand people want to win, but the game as a whole runs dry when you have the same thing all the time, just because it works. The longevity of a game lessens because there's nothing new if everybody feels like "This is the winning play style, so I have to do only this". Competitive fighting games last longer when players have different approaches regardless of using the same character.
This is again wrong. If you could become as good at fighting games as Sonicfox just by watching him then the results of tournaments would be random. Fighting games actually take skill, believe it or not, that not everyone has. It's not simply a matter of practising more than the other person.
I agree 100%.
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But it is a matter of practicing. Win or lose, you have to practice to get/be better. Whether it be execution, combos, spacing, and etc. it's all practice. You do have exceptions like fox and pl who can't be imitated because their pace and level of play is ridiculous. But, there are options used by those players and other top players that others try and emulate.
Some guys have no chance at getting to an elite level. There are different levels of affinity that can be successful, but those are all on the higher end. Players that have no natural talent can't execute consistently enough to compete with the elite. In this respect, its not all that much different from sports.
Because Pig is arguably the most overrated player on the competitive scene who talks like the only thing holding him back was "Kenshi before the buffs" but still can't do shit all with it even when he managed to whinge loud enough and conduct himself disgracefully at enough competitive events for NRS to take notice and buff him to extremely powerful levels. Even now, he needs a character with a power level gap on the rest of the game that MK9 Kenshi had, just to be in the running.
Yeah, Wigy have you watched a REBELO game yet? This is exactly what I said to you when you mentioned that you felt this way about Sub, because TB plays like that - well as said, that's his personal playstyle and how he chooses to make use of the tool that is the Clone. Here's an example of REBELO now that he's found his playstyle a bit
Not really. Athletic ability has a much wider range. Size, muscle mass and structure, lung capacity, off-the-books steroid use, etc etc. These are all mostly nullified by having the same characters available to everyone. You only have match-up knowledge, execution, quick decision making, and twitch speed to differentiate players.
I disagree. Athletic endeavors may have a wider scale of ability because there are more factors, but do not dismiss that scale because its a big part of it.
