Shark Tank
I don't actually play these games
Buff da projectiles.
What I find hilarious is that Erron Black is not the only one with safe 50/50's for combos and mixups. Just wait until everyone has the game and starts exploring these characters. It's much much worse. Just from simply testing things there are a few characters with safe 50/50's and I found a 1 meter Batgirl-esque safe loop with one character. This isn't even my playstyle so I can imagine what other people will find.
Is that with or without the "day 1" patch?
There was a patch it made me download. There might be another one on Tuesday, not sure. While it might impact certain aspects of the game, I highly doubt the playstyle mechanics they've implemented is one of them.
Well I'm mainly concerned with the frame data on chucking plasma. It seems it can be helped if what you say is that they recover too long, their 50/50's, at least in the way that NRS does it's oye old classic jailing except for block inputs probably not. Although making some - might help.
I've been exploring the zoning nonstop. I've got 13 hours and counting in the practice room (lol).
Yea there isn't much in the way of MK9 Freddy/Kenshi zoning in this game.
You took the words right out of my mouth. If its one thing I learned. Its that they will find something to complain about.
What's the frame data on the Necro exclusive moves?
Claw ground attack- Mid, 20f start up, -19 on block, 44 recovery, 9.6% damage. EX is -10 on block, pops up for combo, 8.10% damage. Tracking special.
There is no legit answer. The majority of people in this community are scrubs who hate zoning.
According to the frame data, Liu Kang's fireballs do not seem too bad in the Flame Fist variation. I think he may have a safe armored attack and a parry. In general, he appears to be versatile character in that variation.
Close distance attacks outside of pokes should not be positive either, and mixups esp should not be safe. But if projectiles are too safe on block, it prevents even other zoners to shoot back making it too momentum/offensive based. Look at week one deathstroke mirror matches for example.
"Zoners Among Us"? Right. When the two best characters in the game both have teleport special moves. One of which is safe on block.
You're right I forgot about Liu. He looks really strong in MKX, and his zoning is pretty good. His fireballs do 10.50% damage when his fist are buffed, and the data on them in general is really really good. I hate that they removed his ability to consistently IAF, but he seems so strong this time around that he won't need it.
His dragonfire variation fireballs seem to be even faster than the flamefist ones.
What about full auto jacqui, marksman erron black, or heavy weapons jax? I don't have the game... all I know is from the streams. Are they all hella negative on block?
No they aren't.
Oh, I was just talking out of my ass. I was trying to eyeball it from the kk breakdown.
The reason the Anti-Zoner DLC chars are the best in the game is because almost every other good character in injustice is some sort of zoner. Its like rock paper scissors (rushdown, zoning, anti-zoning) if you can't sympathize with the rushdown chars that can't move forward on you, don't expect pity when theres characters that you can't move away from.
