Who is better? Version 2.0

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Ares is a definite possibility for a 7-3 but just in general is a winning MU. Arrow as well. Joker, Killer Frost, Lobo, Nightwing, Scorpion, Shazam, Grundy, Zatanna, and maybe even Superman I think he can win. Thats about it.

Everything we had that gave Frost trouble has been nerfed, so it can't be more than a 5-5. I agree with him winning Ares, Arrow, Lobo, NW, Scorpion, and possibly Zatanna, Shazam and Grundy. SM still feels like a 5-5, just plays a bit differently now.

 

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Black Adam probably beats Catwoman and Killer Frost.

 

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Black Adam probably beats Catwoman and Killer Frost.

Han said he felt CW was even, has he changed his opinion too?

 

[16 Bit]

Han said he felt CW was even, has he changed his opinion too?

I don't know what he thinks. My opinion hasn't changed though.

 

[MidTierHarley]

Killer Frost is even. Catwoman is 5-5 ra helios beat lordrebellion in a KOTH lobby gg

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

Who gives Raven a lot of trouble besides Doomsday?
Adam has WW, Zod and MMH all as potential 3-7s

Lobo, Bane, Grundy, Flash, Batgirl. I think.

 

[dribirut]

wonder bitch

No she is not

 

[Peckapowa]

No she is not

yes she is

 

[Zoidberg747]

I know Flash and Batslut are 7-3s, I'd assume Bane is as well I've never been beaten in a set vs a Raven before.

Batgirl is not 7-3, no way in hell. 6-4 for sure but it is definitely winnable.

I could see Flash being 3-7 but not Bane, he is 6-4 at worst.

 

[RelentlessOhio]

In terms of awesomeness, Black Adam. He was my first main when I started playing, even if it was only for a brief time.

However matchup-wise I feel that Raven can dominate if played properly. Especially since BA got nerfed to hell.

 

[cR WoundCowboy]

oh god the hollywood dick sucking begins

Why do you care/post in this thread? You "don't play this game" so there is no reason for you to be a voice.

On topic, I am not really sure. I think Adam and raven are close but I give a slight edge to Adam because he has fewer difficult mus.

 

[dribirut]

Why do you care/post in this thread? You "don't play this game" so there is no reason for you to be a voice.

On topic, I am not really sure. I think Adam and raven are close but I give a slight edge to Adam because he has fewer difficult mus.

Wonder Woman or Sinestro. Whose better?

 

[16 Bit]

It's hard to imagine Wonder Woman having a better matchup chart than Sinestro.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

Man I don't get tym sometimes. Ducky has been on raven since release, and played damned near everyone from what I hear. The dude knows his shit. Why would you question it? ESPECIALLY if you don't main Raven. What?

Never take anything you hear as a fact.

QUESTION EVERYTHING


In other news,

Where's the MMH option in the poll?

 

[The Highlander]

Who gives Raven a lot of trouble besides Doomsday?
Adam has WW, Zod and MMH all as potential 3-7s

Wow what makes ww 7-3, I have never played a black adam and thought that I didn't have to outplay them to win. It's heavily footsie based up close, he has the edge full screen, and he has great mobility. What am I missing here?

 

[Qwark28]

Wow what makes ww 7-3, I have never played a black adam and thought that I didn't have to outplay them to win. It's heavily footsie based up close, he has the edge full screen, and he has great mobility. What am I missing here?

how the fuck does he have a fullscreen edge when he cant zone

 

[Drizzle]

Wow what makes ww 7-3, I have never played a black adam and thought that I didn't have to outplay them to win. It's heavily footsie based up close, he has the edge full screen, and he has great mobility. What am I missing here?

Demigoddess beats pretty much everything he wants to do: backdash, throw lightning, and it might trade with divekick at the worst. He can't punish it on block at all so his best option is something like pre-emptive jump back 1 which leads to nothing. You can just throw out iaDG whenever and he can't do much about it. You have better range and mix-ups and you have the tools to limit his mobility quite a bit.

 

[rev0lver]

It's hard to imagine Wonder Woman having a better matchup chart than Sinestro.

Is it?

Does anyone really body Wonder Woman, other than maybe Aquaman? and idk too much about that, that's just what I've heard

I feel like Sinestro definitely bodies more characters but Wonder Woman could have a better mu chart overall with a ton of 5-5's and 6-4's

 

[MidTierHarley]

lol at black adam having an advantage from full screen

 

[BunLantern]

Picked Raven because I play GL. Did I do it wrong?

 

[Big Pampering]

Is it?

Does anyone really body Wonder Woman, other than maybe Aquaman? and idk too much about that, that's just what I've heard

I feel like Sinestro definitely bodies more characters but Wonder Woman could have a better mu chart overall with a ton of 5-5's and 6-4's

who even beats wonderwoman besides aquaman and sinestro?

 

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Is it?

Does anyone really body Wonder Woman, other than maybe Aquaman? and idk too much about that, that's just what I've heard

I feel like Sinestro definitely bodies more characters but Wonder Woman could have a better mu chart overall with a ton of 5-5's and 6-4's

That's what I'm thinking too. So it's just the question of what's better, having a MU chart that has maybe 2-3 more losing MU but a bunch of lopsided MU in your favor or a bunch of 5-5? I would take Sinestro's.

 

[The Highlander]

how the fuck does he have a fullscreen edge when he cant zone

Wow such hostilty, well maybe it's because IADG doesn't reach FULLSCREEN?

Demigoddess beats pretty much everything he wants to do: backdash, throw lightning, and it might trade with divekick at the worst. He can't punish it on block at all so his best option is something like pre-emptive jump back 1 which leads to nothing. You can just throw out iaDG whenever and he can't do much about it. You have better range and mix-ups and you have the tools to limit his mobility quite a bit.

I'm not arguing that it isn't our advantage but 7-3 seems strong, sure IADG beats a lot but like you said, he has options. My main thing in this match up is midrange, how do we outrange him? We have b2 sure, but that's overhead and he can simply walk back and punish. We have to get to b1 range, and while IADG certainly helps us do that, his b2 outranges it by quite a bit. Thanks for an actual response though, this was a lot more helpful than Quarks...

 

[rev0lver]

who even beats wonderwoman besides aquaman and sinestro?

That's what I'm thinking too. So it's just the question of what's better, having a MU chart that has maybe 2-3 more losing MU but a bunch of lopsided MU in your favor or a bunch of 5-5? I would take Sinestro's.

http://testyourmight.com/threads/my-retirement-post-evo-mu-chart.44797/

Cowboy doesn't have one to compare to but this chart looks like it would be better overall imo. Even though she doesn't blow up as many I'd take it over having more death mu's. I think being able to win by being more solid is better than just winning some mu's for free.

Then again that's like the opposite reasoning I used for voting for Raven so idk

 

[Qwark28]

Wow such hostilty, well maybe it's because IADG doesn't reach FULLSCREEN?

I'm not arguing that it isn't our advantage but 7-3 seems strong, sure IADG beats a lot but like you said, he has options. My main thing in this match up is midrange, how do we outrange him? We have b2 sure, but that's overhead and he can simply walk back and punish. We have to get to b1 range, and while IADG certainly helps us do that, his b2 outranges it by quite a bit. Thanks for an actual response though, this was a lot more helpful than Quarks...

Not hostility, just wondering. Just because you must block and dash or jump a 26f projectile on reaction does not mean BA controls anything.