Dankster Morgan
It is better this way
Launch Tanya was broken lol. Pre XL Kobu was retarded. Tanya is balanced now.
She was, but she wasn't as far ahead of the rest of the cast as she would have had to be for those nerfs to be justified. Hence, overrated.Tanya was certainly not overrated, they went too far with the nerfs but she was top five, no question.
When every single player drops a character except for their biggest fans, I don't think that's 'balanced', I think that's overnerfed.Launch Tanya was broken lol. Pre XL Kobu was (soap bar in my mouth). Tanya is balanced now.
She's fineTanya got fucked relentlessly in ways that were truly outsized. She needed a few adjustments at launch, yes, but everyone whined so much that they nerfed her absolutely into the ground.
LEATHERFACE was fucking nerfed too like come on. Why?I'm gonna play Devil's advocate and say (as someone who didn't play him by the way, just so we're clear that I'm not biased or whatever) most, if not all of the Cyber Sub hype at launch window was merely propaganda to attempt to coax NRS into continuing to patch the game.
Thing is every single KP2 variation got propagandarized during launch window, it certainly wasn't just Cyber Sub, and all of them had some straw-clutching talking points attached to them. It's just that Cyber Sub took the biggest hit relative to how good he was perceived to be. (you can't nerf Leatherface to the ground if he's already in the ground *roll safe memes inbound*)
Besides all that, the patch he was nerfed in, Bo Rai Cho was also nerfed, which pretty much proved it was simply a pre-prepared "just in case they complain about KP2" umbrella patch and immediately lost any validation behind whether NRS were actually right to do it.
lmao the downplay. you are actually insane.Cassie. The backflip nerf. That move was fine, people just needed to hold it. The overhead nerf is whatever, if EVERY overhead would had went that way I wouldn't be saying this, but I don't think she needed that either.
I was pretty annoyed with this whole thread, but this post made it all worth the read... Well done, well done...
If you're talking about the flip kick armor being removed then that's crazy. EX flip pre patch was a 6 frame armored launcher that is almost always safe. Lol tf it's still an excellent anti air and great reversal.Cassie. The backflip nerf. That move was fine, people just needed to hold it. The overhead nerf is whatever, if EVERY overhead would had went that way I wouldn't be saying this, but I don't think she needed that either.
I feel that the balancing factor was chosen wrong is all.If you're talking about the flip kick armor being removed then that's crazy. EX flip pre patch was a 6 frame armored launcher that is almost always safe. Lol tf it's still an excellent anti air and great reversal.
As a casual who was maining TG, I can see that some of the nerfs might have been deserved. It still sucks when it happens, but ok. Actually, some of the deep meta stuff that affects the pro matches probably wasn't going to come into play in casual matches. Even adding some frames here and there isn't the end of the world, not like the casuals are going to feel a massive difference in the milliseconds between 7f moves and 10f moves. I liked Raiden because I was able to get in the lab and work up some decent combos (not full combos) that did some good damage. Hey, that's what you want at a casual level right? The fun is being able to pull of some cool combos that hurt.I knew someone would mention TG lol. Idr exactly everything but sorry a 6F mid was dumb. Also offensive option selects were ridiculous when this game first came out. But if there were other changes idr them
The problem isn't the block advantage or disadvantage. Could be minus 50 but doesn't matter cuz Cassie goes full screenI feel that the balancing factor was chosen wrong is all.
It did need a nerf, just not the way it went. I'd have made it -20 on block and -25 on whiff.
butcher got completely wrecked for a character nobody complained about and rarely anyone played.LEATHERFACE was fucking nerfed too like come on. Why?
Well he never had tick throws anyway. He's still got mix but damn NRS was like "Nah fuck him" and then nothing to help him because triborg and alien were dumb therefor ALL of KP2 has to be dumb yea? NERF EM!butcher got completely wrecked for a character nobody complained about and rarely anyone played.
rip vortex
rip tick throws
rip armored jump bop
never allowed to live
Which isn't advantageous for her to begin with, since she's a rushdown character, who used to have a strong 50/50 game. Even less so if it's negative on block and you can run up and punish. Or if she uses it and it whiffs, you yet again run up and punish.The problem isn't the block advantage or disadvantage. Could be minus 50 but doesn't matter cuz Cassie goes full screen