Question Where Are The 7-3's? (The Difficult To Impossible MU Thread)

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

Next week marks the end of Year One in MKXL's lifespan.
And in that time, I can't help but notice a conspicuous lack of serious pain in the ass/masochisticly uphill matchups. Gone are the days of Hawkgirl VS Deathstroke absurdity, or Sheeva VS Mileena hopelessness. Now as time has gone on and balance has been shifted up, down and sideways, it seems that though there are certainly still variations that suffer or pale in comparison to their betters, there isn't a character in rotation that can't at least make a case for tournament viable lethal killing machine capability.

Or maybe I'm wrong.

Let the debate begin.
Hardest fights in the game.
Most lopsided, unforgiving battles.
Who suffers the most, and if you play them, how do you get around it?

Aaaaaaand go.

 

[Mikemetroid]

GM vs everyone who doesn't have a weird attack that goes through clone

 

[ChoseDeath]

Sub-Zero (including Grand Master) versus Swarm Queen D'vorah. Easily 7-3 for D'vorah, not even close. You can damn near make an argument for 8-2. You can not lock down the Bug Lady with any sort of clone pressure because of the ovipositor rush buff. You can't do damage to her really because you can't open her up and she hits harder than Sub midscreen. It is a HORRIFIC match up, but thankfully one of few for Sub.

 

[TackyHaddock]

Acidic vs. Mkxl cast

 

[Kickbykick]

Grandmaster Sub vs Dualist Liu
Piercing and Ethereal vs Dualist

 

[Dankster Morgan]

I think a lot of these are gonna involve Grandmaster weather he wins them or loses them.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

The cast vs High Tech

 

[THTB]

GM Sub vs Reptile (In Sub favor)

 

[Scott The Scot]

Maybe Smoke vs Bartitsu. Smokes favour of course. But that was before the nerfs, don't think it would affect it that much. I guess.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

Tom Brady vs Ice clone

 

[Dankster Morgan]

GM Sub vs Reptile (In Sub favor)

7-3 tho? vs deceptive? I agree Sub wins but 7-3 might be pushing it.

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

GM Sub vs Reptile (In Sub favor)

this isnt that bad 6 4 at worst for nimble anyway

 

[KingJerm731]

7-3 tho? vs deceptive? I agree Sub wins but 7-3 might be pushing it.

He definitely wins but I would say 6-4. A patient reptile can play the matchup well.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

He definitely wins but I would say 6-4. A patient reptile can play the matchup well.

I agree, 6-4 across all of reptile's variations, but once deceptive gets in he can face fuck you.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

Cyrax and Cyber sub zero have a few of the 3/7's

id say Cyrax vs Mileena could be a 3-7 possibly a 4-6

 

[Dankster Morgan]

Cyrax and Cyber sub zero have a few of the 3/7's

id say Cyrax vs Mileena could be a 3-7 possibly a 4-6

I'm sorry, CSZ is an MK9 character so lets keep this focused on this game please.

 

[Johnny Based Cage]

Patches vs Triborg, 10-0. Never allowed to live.

 

[Bomborge]

Maybe Smoke vs Bartitsu. Smokes favour of course. But that was before the nerfs, don't think it would affect it that much. I guess.

Smoke vs sub wouldn't you say is a 7-3 in subs favor as well?

I'm sorry, CSZ is an MK9 character so lets keep this focused on this game please.

Pls tell me thats a joke.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

Patches vs Triborg, 10-0. Never allowed to live.

id say he is at 6-4 accross the cast, just has a slight disadvantage, noone in this game has a 10-0 thats a 100% chance to win against him.

he may have a few that is in his favor but i haven't found them yet.

mostly it looks like he is at disadvantage to any kind of range, any type of zoning(if they know the bombs can be ran through, and the net is really punishable on block)

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

ill do a decent amount
erron vs sub
mileena vs sub
sonya vs everyone
sub vs kotal
cassie vs liu
sub vs quan
dvorah vs sub
kung jin vs sub
predator vs sub
sub vs alist and fisticuffs
johnny vs liu

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

id say he is at 6-4 accross the cast, just has a slight disadvantage, noone in this game has a 10-0 thats a 100% chance to win against him.

he may have a few that is in his favor but i haven't found them yet.

mostly it looks like he is at disadvantage to any kind of range, any type of zoning(if they know the bombs can be ran through, and the net is really punishable on block)

is there an inside joke im missing? my boy hes trolling

 

[Matix218]

The cast vs High Tech

Is she really that bad? Im seriously asking lol, I have played like 1 ever.

 

[Johnny Based Cage]

id say he is at 6-4 accross the cast, just has a slight disadvantage, noone in this game has a 10-0 thats a 100% chance to win against him.

he may have a few that is in his favor but i haven't found them yet.

mostly it looks like he is at disadvantage to any kind of range, any type of zoning(if they know the bombs can be ran through, and the net is really punishable on block)

I wasn't saying Cyrax gets 10-0'ed by any character in the game; I was saying Triborg as a whole (especially Cyrax and Cyber Sub) got 10-0'ed by NRS' latest patch.

 

[Creepy00]

Smoke vs sub wouldn't you say is a 7-3 in subs favor as well?

Agree, it is certainly on Subzero's favor. The ice clone does so much work on the MU that makes it a bit dumb.

 

[Name v.5.0]

Still a little early to tell but Bo vs Acidic is really nasty. Acidic flat out dominates and there's a chance it might be worse than 7-3.

Honorable mentions for Bo vs full auto, and pretty lady.