EGP_Shoryuken
Noob
1.Kung Lao
2.Cage
3.Mileena
4.A good Jax
2.Cage
3.Mileena
4.A good Jax
UGH this. maybe it's just inexperience, but I've never beaten a jax player with smoke. ever. I play him so rarely that i forgot to mention him before4.A good Jax
I say that cuz I do play good Jax players and they give me a really hard time. Also Aris(who is probably the best smoke player in the county) loses to tyrant, the guy who put Jax on the map @ evo.UGH this. maybe it's just inexperience, but I've never beaten a jax player with smoke. ever. I play him so rarely that i forgot to mention him before
I see I never really knew this. I don’t get to play a good sub often but now ill remember this. Also it seems like het hits me if I do not block low, and his damn cross up kills me.@Arydious - The sub matchup is pretty easy. Stay at the far edge of jump distance, and just be ready to do 3 things. Smoke away from the slide (especially wake up slides), Smoke Bomb the instant you see a clone, and block. Most Subs do blocked strings into clones, which you Smoke Bomb them. If they slide Smoke Away and then punish the slide, it will wiff against the smoke away. Never block low against Sub since he does not have anything low the really hurts.
This is what he does the d4 I think. Maybe I also fear the slide more than I should. Thanks for the information everyoneActually, Sub can make you block low by jailing you with d4 and then going into 21 and 22 pressure.
If you smoke away and try to throw smoke bombs at Sub all the time, you'll end up in the corner if he just walks you down. Once you're in the corner the matchup becomes pretty heavily in Sub's favour. The best way to play against Sub with Smoke is to annoy him with pressure when he gets within jumping distance, and then run away some more.
My primary ways to hurt Raiden are d4, b2 3 into smoke bomb combos when he teleports and punish his supermans with dash 3, d1, 2 into full combos.Hello everyone, My Main is Smoke now, I was playing Noob/Cage but Smoke feels so good, I'm having a lot of fun with him, but my only problem so far is Raiden, I have a friend who plays a very good Raiden and I just can't beat him.
Please tell me some advice to deal with Raiden.
Thank you in advance!
My first question would be are you playing your friend online or offlineHello everyone, My Main is Smoke now, I was playing Noob/Cage but Smoke feels so good, I'm having a lot of fun with him, but my only problem so far is Raiden, I have a friend who plays a very good Raiden and I just can't beat him.
Please tell me some advice to deal with Raiden.
Thank you in advance!
Check out the match up thread i just put up. I used to hate raiden now i don't fear him. I am assuming how ever that you are playing offline with your friend and not online. Really comes down o baiting raiden to do his moves and punish the hell out of them.Hello everyone, My Main is Smoke now, I was playing Noob/Cage but Smoke feels so good, I'm having a lot of fun with him, but my only problem so far is Raiden, I have a friend who plays a very good Raiden and I just can't beat him.
Please tell me some advice to deal with Raiden.
Thank you in advance!
This does seem viable but a rush down character is expecting smoke to teleport out, this results in a block teleport which means they get a full punish, and then they begin the rush again. If smoke has no meter smoke towards/away cant bypass their physical attacks, so we get tore up their. d1 smoke bomb does work but many people also expect this from smoke being rushed, they can block it and do a fast punish.I dont see why every smoke player has issues with rushdown characters. You can choke them by rushing them down; using your teleport to go behind them after a knock down, and mix up grabs, combo strings and crossovers. If you get rushed down, after a blocked string, use d1 into smoke bomb. It works almost every time and if not it pushes them away so you can jump backwards + air teleport. And then you're out. D1 beats almost every attack in the game, its that fast. Even reptiles dash. An extremely well timed KL spin can get it sometimes though. It even catches them on the way up.