General/Other - Boneshaper The Only Nerf Bone Shaper Should Receive

[Braindead]

Almost as bad as kenshi teleflurry whiff?

Bruh -20 ain't close to -53

Also 30% w one bar isn't abysmal especially when u consider the guaranteed block dmg and meter build after the restand

I'm talking about pre-patch. If you jumped that stuff from full screen you could run in and punish.

And yeah that's what I said about the damage, the restand makes the damage ok, take out the restand and the damage becomes bad, which is what I suggested.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

I'm talking about pre-patch. If you jumped that stuff from full screen you could run in and punish.

And yeah that's what I said about the damage, the restand makes the damage ok, take out the restand and the damage becomes bad, which is what I suggested.

Pre patch?

I don't even wanna go there mentally

 

[The Magician]

D4~hellsparks shouldn't jail

 

[Braindead]

Pre patch?

I don't even wanna go there mentally

Lol fair enough. Just remember the sweet times when TF wasn't -3 billion on whiff.

 

[Etoroguy]

I just hope they don't kill imposter when they Nerf bone shaper. They should just adjust bone shaper specific moves.

 

[Braindead]

D4~hellsparks shouldn't jail

Why? I see you play Tanya, you can full combo punish D4 Hell sparks either way. The only difference that will make is Shinnok won't get his 4% chip before he eats the full combo.

 

[Death]

Shinnok is great obviously but people saying hes broke is completely ridiculous and I was one of the first saying how good he was way back. I wouldnt change properties on projectile, d1 etc. I hate looping pressure tho. MB hellsparks +14 on block is fine but I hate how he can RC into f4. Looping pressure needs to go period. Dvorah, Liu kang and others need to have their pressures looked at as well. Making the first MB hell spark with more pushback so he cant run in and do the low would be the only fair nerf. Obviously it would hurt Necromancer and imposter a bit so give those variations some nice buffs.

D4 hellsparks is fine. Canceling into regular sparks is unsafe and most people with armor can armor the MB on reaction or better yet just let them MB it and waste their bar. Your too far to RC with a low anyways. More times its probably better not canceling into hell sparks to be honest.

 

[imblackjames]

He needs 2 nerfs imo

Dark beam should be -10 on block

And d4 shouldn't jail hell sparks

 

[ArmedCalf]

Shinnok is great obviously but people saying hes broke is completely ridiculous and I was one of the first saying how good he was way back. I wouldnt change properties on projectile, d1 etc. I hate looping pressure tho. MB hellsparks +14 on block is fine but I hate how he can RC into f4. Looping pressure needs to go period. Dvorah, Liu kang and others need to have their pressures looked at as well. Making the first MB hell spark with more pushback so he cant run in and do the low would be the only fair nerf. Obviously it would hurt Necromancer and imposter a bit so give those variations some nice buffs.

D4 hellsparks is fine. Canceling into regular sparks is unsafe and most people with armor can armor the MB on reaction or better yet just let them MB it and waste their bar. Your too far to RC with a low anyways. More times its probably better not canceling into hell sparks to be honest.

Lol, they better be some nice buffs if Imposter no longer has that. It'll mean I have one shot to get a move steal and if I miss I'm boned. I'm basically a meter dependant version of Ermac.

 

[SaSSolino]

I agree with this, perhaps -9 is a lot tho. I like -6/7 better.

 

[JDM]

D4xxHell Sparks should not be a true blockstring, either.

 

[ArmedCalf]

Iunno I mean maaaaybe I'm blowing it out of proportion, but Imposter's gotta get in to take the move. Since all of his stuff is negative except like 2 normals, I have one shot to get in go for it. The MB spark lets me RC the f4 for another shot but I'm burning a bar. If you take away that then I get one shot and I'm boned. I can't continue pressure, I can backdash but that doesn't do me any good because I want to be up close. I can Hell Spark but a raw Hell Spark is ballsy. I just think if they start tweaking with his current pressure they should give him something else. Boom there's my stance

 

[ArmedCalf]

Also I keep writing Imposter in my post not to try and state I'm an Imposter main, but so people know that I'm not talking about BS. That shit is it's own beast lol

 

[GNG Iniquity]

Fuck it. Leave him be. Shinnok and Quan both have to fight for the title of Ivan Ooze now. This game is broken as fuck lol

 

[Spencer]

SIMPLE MAKE HIS FIREBALLS LIKE SHANG TSUNGS

only have 1 but can go close,mid,far
Enhanced does what it does now and on hit launches them
Add frames to his projectile it's way to fast
Add frames to his f4 way to fast for a low starter

 

[STK]

dark beam -10 on block
f4 10f start up
db2 15f of recovery (maybe)
d1 hit advantage needs to drop a bit
DONE!

 

[Alright RyRy]

This community sucks, people want to nerf him to the ground so he is not viable anymore. That is NOT the way it needs to be. A few small changes can make a huge difference.

NO character should be nerfed to the ground. Just because they are a top tier.

 

[RM slacked]

As long as Lao gets nerfed, NRS could take the entire restand string out of the game and I wouldn't care. I just hope they don't end up ruining impostor because I'm not ready to switch to GM sub yet and hate life.

 

[DET_BLAKEANATOR]

Almost as bad as kenshi teleflurry whiff?

Bruh -20 ain't close to -53

Also 30% w one bar isn't abysmal especially when u consider the guaranteed block dmg and meter build after the restand

I was just about to say, I WISH Kenshi was only -20! Can't believe it was compared to TF -_-

 

[ArmedCalf]

Leave. The low. alone.

God I'm here reading shit going "Okay yeah that kills the other two variations, oh awesome yeah the other two variations are dead now."

 

[Braindead]

I was just about to say, I WISH Kenshi was only -20! Can't believe it was compared to TF -_-

I don't know where you got the -20 from lol. Pre-patch Shinnok's projectile was around -40 or -45 on whiff. Which is close to Kenshi's TF.

 

[STK]

no one should have a 7f advancing low. I'm sorry but no! 10f or 11f is fair. Like SZ or Kotal.

 

[STRYKIE]

no one should have a 7f advancing low. I'm sorry but no! 10f or 11f is fair. Like SZ or Kotal.

You mean the one he had day 1? Sorry mate, you don't get to toot that horn now.

 

[Braindead]

You mean the one he had day 1? Sorry mate, you don't get to toot that horn now.

I just wish people understand that he had almost everything he has now and he was still crap.

 

[ArmedCalf]

I just wish people understand that he had almost everything he has now and he was still crap.

In the beginning he had no OH and couldn't meter burn hell sparks on block. They made it so that MBing the spark would make you +24 on block. Now it's +14. I think that's the big thing with everyone. People that know enough about the MU know to block low. At the moment the spark is really only a huge problem in the BS variation. Imposter uses it to keep the pressure going but BS can still use it for a massive blockstring that does good chip damage and builds insane meter. Imposter can MB the spark once to continue pressure but that's it. After that he's gotta back off.

'sigh' I shudder when I think about what could happen. I'll probably switch to Raiden or Cassie if he gets nerfed through the ground. Give the people something else to b**** about.