Sorry bro, I was just making the point that you didn't really make any convincing argument, you just sorted of listed characters. Any matchup turns in cage's favour once hes in, its just a matter of getting in in the first place.
i dont need to its self explanitory, my thread isnt who beats cage, its who is better than cage tier list wise, i could write pages, but we all should know cage is top 15 at best
I only throw fans against JC to build meter. It feels kind of futile these days, delaying the inevitable if you will. Stupid neutral duck...
Kitana needs more resets.
He loses to Kabal, struggles against Kenshi, Noob and Sonya. Thats about it really.
Once youre in though its game over, so the bad matchup only really lasts until you catch them, then its like 8-2 to JC maybe 7-3 if they have good timing on armour moves.
Any character with a 6-9 frame launcher can get Cage off of them easy. Players are just too scared and dont know what theyre doing against Cage STILL.
True. But they have to be equally as patient.
The same thing with jax f4, kitanas cutter, and pretty much ANY blocked poke. Cages problem for me is that even when you can get him off you, its still a guess because of the f3 and EX nut punch, theres no way you can beat those every time, and cage players know that. Thats why im scared of cage up close, he just has this way of never getting off you even when you know your openings.
am new to this community and only have real in depth knowledge on cage raiden and lui kang, but i have been around long enough to know that cagr is not top 10. i have basic knowledge on my top 10 match ups so posting them would be irrelevant since its mot about how many bad match ups a character has its how good the character is. look at raiden, not one bad match up, does that mean he is the best in the game? imo the tools a character has makes the character, we could easily go on and say cage up close is 10-0 against the entire cast and 0-10 anywhere else on screeen, and that limitation is what places him in the tops 15, just like foxy said, its all mind games with cage nothing more, were as other characters your no frozen on block because your scared his knee will fly into you face. we are over looking the fact that mindgames is what makes jc, without mindgames and mindfuckery jc wouldn't even be top 25. have you played the cpu with johnny cage? you can't mind fuck the cpu. hell with out mind games jc's rushdown is average at best.
Surely that just ends in crotch pounding?
I don't understand, if you don't block the knee he still ends up hitting you with it and you're back to square one, the random advantage sucks, but if you get hit with that knee, you're back to blocking anyway.
If you are willing to take that risk.
sorry crappy netbook, ill slow it down for you. without mindgames, the notion of mindfuckery, johnny cage would be a top 25 character at best. the fact that he can get away with a lot of things up close makes his rushdown top tier, therefore making everyone believe once your in with cage, its over. if you had godlike reactions you would be out of cages pressure in 5 sec everytime. is that a little better?
So your anti cage tech is to hope that the other player cant hitconfirm for shit? Im not certain i have this right, do you mean you actually LET GO of block when cage f3's you? or just make sure you never block crouching?
No. This still makes no sense. No one can react, it's a guessing game. Ok I guess if Neo enters EVO Foxy is in trouble, but he could blow up everyone with those reactions.
