Qwark28
Joker waiting room
isnt rains lighting the same as his - on blockThe number in the frame data thread has it as ~38. This is because it changes depending on your hitbox. When you do 214 ice clone, you can be punished by moves slower than 18 frames, IE. rain's lightning.
This is assuming that cancelling into a clone works the same as cancelling into other specials, like kabal's ndc. It probably does, but the frame data for sz before was different which made me think otherwise.