Strategy - Shinnok Shinnok's Patch changes 8-31-15

[True Grave]

any BS Shinnok mains with the new patch playing yet?

I wanted to know what Dark Beam is like on hit and block now.

Also Scepter's new range if its not too much to ask.

Dark beam on hit after 2in1 leaves them at a jump distance away and on block is -12. Advantage is +12, ex on block is -3, hit +36 according to NRS.

Scepter slam does hit from one step forward from full screen and you can't use scepter slam after an ex shoulder anymore (range decrease). The range is still good, but you have to take a long step if you're full screen. Basically full step then half step and you're in range.

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

Dark beam on hit after 2in1 leaves them at a jump distance away and on block is -12. Advantage is +12, ex on block is -3, hit +36 according to NRS.

Scepter slam does hit from one step forward from full screen and you can't combo off an ex shoulder anymore. The range is still good, but you have to take a long step if you're full screen. Basically full step then half step and you're in range.

cant combo off EX shoulder anymore? wtf
not even in the corner?

 

[RM Jonnitti]

idgaf

I M P O S T O R B O Y S

 

[True Grave]

cant combo off EX shoulder anymore? wtf
not even in the corner?

What I mean is you can't combo off ex shoulder into scepter slam due to range decrease. I should have specified

 

[ArmedCalf]

I'm just over here playing Imposter whaddya mean nerfs?

 

[LavaG]

Is it just me or you can no longer loop the hell sparks mb pressure, someone pls test this.

 

[RM slacked]

I was so scared that impostor was going to be touched, but the bone shaper nerf is 100% fair. Good job NRS.

 

[SaSSolino]

the shinnok community is so amazing, I was already freaking out and you guys chilled me.

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

thats cause they all use imposter.
jackasses

 

[SaSSolino]

Wack, I came here for the salt. I'm out.

you are such a sad person.

 

[Genei Jin]

his brutalities are easier to do now

 

[RM slacked]

the shinnok community is so amazing, I was already freaking out and you guys chilled me.

I was salty when they didn't mention you on stream with the Quan bug.

 

[Vithar]

2nd Variation after Balanced i've spend most time in this game is Necromancer ... and ofc he gets nothing.

 

[Genei Jin]

f224 into mimicry face off brutality now works.

 

[SaSSolino]

I was salty when they didn't mention you on stream with the Quan bug.

it's fine, I found it by pure luck anyway. also they did mention me on the yt video.

 

[SaSSolino]

What I mean is you can't combo off ex shoulder into scepter slam due to range decrease. I should have specified

aw man. well I still have my main man impostor.

 

[SaSSolino]

shinnok community is best community.

 

[Bad Genez]

f224 into mimicry face off brutality now works.

Bumping for this. How is this not huge news? This is the hypest Brutal in the game.

Also, F224 mb pressure stopped working after the first nerf on Shinnok lol

 

[WakeUp DP]

you are such a sad person.

Haha I'm just trolling brah.

 

[Altsa]

I expected Dark Beam to be around -8 after the patch. -12 is rather big nerf.

Also expected Tempest hat to be around -8 instead of -3 on block...Guess he needs it.

 

[SaSSolino]

after a combo ending with f33throw, does it still make sense to cancel into dark beam? I don't still have the patch on pc, so I'm not sure, but cancel it into HLs seems more damaging and better for zoning, while not cancelling it at all has the restand right in front of shinnok. what does the cancel into dark beam give shinnok now?

 

[XxDark_]

shinnok is still very strong.

 

[Bad Genez]

after a combo ending with f33throw, does it still make sense to cancel into dark beam? I don't still have the patch on pc, so I'm not sure, but cancel it into HLs seems more damaging and better for zoning, while not cancelling it at all has the restand right in front of shinnok. what does the cancel into dark beam give shinnok now?

Someome correct me if I'm wrong, but I think It's still +8, but has more pushback on hit. Since it's guaranteed on hit as an ender, there's really no downside to it aside from the missing guaranteed pressure, which was bullshit anyways. He's still a threat, but it's not nearly as braindead as it used to be.

 

[Braindead]

Someome correct me if I'm wrong, but I think It's still +8, but has more pushback on hit. Since it's guaranteed on hit as an ender, there's really no downside to it aside from the missing guaranteed pressure, which was bullshit anyways. He's still a threat, but it's not nearly as braindead as it used to be.

It's +12 on hit now. But I think ending with Hell Sparks for full screen knockdowns into more zoning would be better, or ending with Shoulder for close knockdown and oki mixups.

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

It's +12 on hit now. But I think ending with Hell Sparks for full screen knockdowns into more zoning would be better, or ending with Shoulder for close knockdown and oki mixups.

I've been ending combos in scoop for awhile now.
They can't escape F41 after scoop unless they armor.