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Thinking about coming back and messing with some Warlock. Any of you guys been grinding this fella since XL came out? How are you all finding him these days/how do you feel the matchup spread is for him right now?
Overall, I think Warlock is Quan's most solid variation. It fairs pretty well against everyone and the EX Slam makes a BIG difference in matchups where Quan has to defend.Thinking about coming back and messing with some Warlock. Any of you guys been grinding this fella since XL came out? How are you all finding him these days/how do you feel the matchup spread is for him right now?
Summoner all day. I try to go full zoning in this matchup. Kano's floaty jump makes him easy to anti air (B1, NJP, st4, bat fireball, raw trance) and EX Kano ball is easy to react to from full screen. If Kano gets in, D1 to interrupt his pressure then try to get a hit in that you can combo from ro send him back full screen. Then let the zoning continue.Quan mains, how do y'all feel about the Quan/Cutthroat match up? As of now, I feel like Warlock is the way to go, but I don't know everything.
So how do you all approach it as Sorcerer/Warlock?
I always try to interrupt his pressure with armor breaking setups/strings from up close, like Cage's 12 or Lius B1, so maybe going for a hard read with F1xxExOHPunch would make him respect you seeing as Tremor doesn't have any strings that break armor.can someone plz tell me how to deal with sorcerors armor? i feel like once he has it out i can't do anything :/. i wasplaying the match using tremor btw.
Both are -14, but B32 can be tougher to punish if you didn't know they weren't going to commit to anything after it. Just record the string in training mode and keep practicing until you feel comfortable punishing I guess.Yooooo, all you Quans out there, I have a question. How negative is Back3,2 and Back3,2,4? "Go into practice mode" Lol im not home atm and this has been bugging me all day. I fought a horrible Quan and I couldn't punish Back3,2,4 with F1 ( Kangs 6Frame high) which last time I checked was like -14. I also see in tournament, Back3,2 which I thought was -11 but maybe im stupid. Prolly am
I believe that your approach mid screen and in the corner should be a bit different. It is also dependent on what character you have so it varies. One great way to break Quan Chi's armor is to do a jab followed by an armor move, so if you manage to block Quan Chi's mixup, you could do a low poke into your armored move and hit him out of armor.can someone plz tell me how to deal with sorcerors armor? i feel like once he has it out i can't do anything :/. i wasplaying the match using tremor btw.
I don't play Tremor so I don't know your tools. However I think this is good advice for anyone struggling against the quatchup.can someone plz tell me how to deal with sorcerors armor? i feel like once he has it out i can't do anything :/. i wasplaying the match using tremor btw.
I think Summoner is still Quan's best variation.Am I the only one who thinks Summoner is extremely meh ??
He is ok but I think he needs something to bring him back a bit. Im not asking for the broke stuff like last time. Perhaps I'm still not used to the massive damage nerf he received (needed yes, but not to this degree imo) or perhaps I'm just trying to spark some life in these dead forums
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I see what you're saying but top 5 is a bit far. With bar he is fine. Zoning is pretty redundant but keeping people out can be done.I think Summoner is still Quan's best variation.
Still has insane corner damage. Still has the EXACT same dirt as pre-patch in the corner. His zoning is still best in the game. He has a few bad MUs now but how the character is designed with the way MKX works none can ever really be worse than 6-4 imo.
This is due to his still extreme offense. He still has top 5 offense easily and the only characters who really give him trouble imo are characters who don't allow him to turtle, or characters who have better offense than him. There isn't many of the latter, and the characters in the former category don't have the insane offense Quan does when they get in, so 1 touch off Quan and it's even scarier times for them than it would be for us anyway.
I don't know, he doesn't even need meter for another bat summon vortex off most midscreen starters and all corner starters. This means he can just bully his opponent to the corner, which he does surprisingly well against most the cast, then go ham with 50/50s into ExSkull into more 50/50s on block and big damage on hit. You just have to make sure you have the bat out to make people scared to attempt to armor through. Once the bats out, which it always will be in the corner, they gave to guess whether to armor out or not after each 50/50.I see what you're saying but top 5 is a bit far. With bar he is fine. Zoning is pretty redundant but keeping people out can be done.
No ones saying he's better than before. I just believe Summoner is still a very strong variation.Quan Chi is OBVIOUSLY worse off than he was and STILL loses to the same shit he lost to before. We all love Quan here, but I think you guys are looking through rose colored glasses. He is still "good", but come on now.
That actually combos? Fuck that's amazing.Someone let me know if this is known or not. A friend of mine found it and I haven't seen it on here but I don't wanna make a thread if is is known. Might be worthless considering the patch is in a couple days but hey I'm posting it anyway.
http://xboxclips.com/tonyhawkmast/fd373b6a-dc0f-40cc-a004-4e43478bc6b8
Already knownSomeone let me know if this is known or not. A friend of mine found it and I haven't seen it on here but I don't wanna make a thread if is is known. Might be worthless considering the patch is in a couple days but hey I'm posting it anyway.
http://xboxclips.com/tonyhawkmast/fd373b6a-dc0f-40cc-a004-4e43478bc6b8
I have seen Dink doing that on stream. And thought to myself-WTF!? Now I see. It is awesome.Someone let me know if this is known or not. A friend of mine found it and I haven't seen it on here but I don't wanna make a thread if is is known. Might be worthless considering the patch is in a couple days but hey I'm posting it anyway.
http://xboxclips.com/tonyhawkmast/fd373b6a-dc0f-40cc-a004-4e43478bc6b8
This can be teched of course, but you need to guess which way, hope it combos midscreen as well, then it is another 50/50, it would have been 25/25/25/25 if Quan had his overhead, but without it it will be a 33/33/33) need to lab that asap.That actually combos? Fuck that's amazing.
So I lab bed it a bit. Midscreen you can get only the normal bat to hit, meterlessly it can only be comboed into a rune for 13%. But using the Ex Trance you get these:That actually combos? Fuck that's amazing.