Keep practicing. Every great player was a total scrub at one point.Fair play to you guys that can do those combos, I tried a few & 2 of my fingers fell off! Far to awkward, with all those bats & runs flying all over the place.
It is better to use 4 instead of b12 in long combos, because it's basically the same damage but scales less because it's less hits.@legion666 Yea I've been doing that pretty much, but most of my bnb's right now go to run cancel b12 into trance, but if i tone the damage down a little pre trance, I could probably finish with the F2122, RC, 141. I'm also using my armor portal a lot after a naked or anti air trance, letting the trance run out, then starting a mixup.
P.S. Not sure why I said tournament players. I'm technically a tournament player, and that's not saying much. I meant more along the line of optimal players.
D2 isn't a great combo ender for Quan because all his variations have options that lead to more pressure. Summoner and Sorcerer should aim to end combos with 141 due to the hard knockdown allowing time for a bat summon or portal summon, and Warlock is better off ending combos with MB Portal Grab to go into his OTG vortex. By using D2 as an ender, you're essentially throwing away your post knockdown advantage to go back to a neutral game.@ETC AdmiralAugustus It's weird that I don't see anyone saying this, or perhaps it's not optimal, or it's been patched, or I'm blind?
Anyway, I'm still learning Quan Chi, but I always use the same universal meterless combos:
f2122, 4+trance, jip+f2122, run, d2 (35%)
b324, 4+trance, walk backwards a bit before jip+f2122, run, d2 (34%)
The hardest part is landing the uppercut at the end, but it's not that difficult once you get used to it.
The timing on your fbat is important, I think that if you're too late, the opponent will juggle farther and you can't reach them. I'm not sure, but I think you should fbat before you hit that last 2, but anyway, it's a matter of practice.Can someone post a video of the run cancel into 141 actually working? I don't see how you can cover so much distance and still get 141 off:
B324, 4xtrance, bat summon, f2122, fbat, 141, bat summon
I always timed it right before I'd run cancel. So when quan is throwing his arms up on the last 2. Then bat. Then run. You should be able to hit the 141 after. Since the bat takes a while to cough up the fireball you have like half a second.Can someone post a video of the run cancel into 141 actually working? I don't see how you can cover so much distance and still get 141 off:
B324, 4xtrance, bat summon, f2122, fbat, 141, bat summon
I managed to do it once or twice in the lab. I thinky you to do any instant air njp to make it connect properly. It's tough for me to do them so it might be a tight link. Honestly just doing b324, 4, into trance is a good enough string as it is since no matter the variation you're setting up from some big damage that the extra 5%, though good, won't mess you up too badly.Does anyone have tips for landing b324 into NJP into 4?
I can do b324 into 4 but ive seen some people land the NJP in between both and it just adds an extra 5% to the combo. Any tips?
Im working on a combo... So far I got it to 68% (1 meter, 1 reset) and if i can nail that NJP i can get the combo to 80 5 percent on every popup is great and opens up more optionsI managed to do it once or twice in the lab. I thinky you to do any instant air njp to make it connect properly. It's tough for me to do them so it might be a tight link. Honestly just doing b324, 4, into trance is a good enough string as it is since no matter the variation you're setting up from some big damage that the extra 5%, though good, won't mess you up too badly.
Holy shit that's nice. What variation?Im working on a combo... So far I got it to 68% (1 meter, 1 reset) and if i can nail that NJP i can get the combo to 80 5 percent on every popup is great and opens up more options
Warlock. Will post when I get home, hopefully someone can optimize itHoly shit that's nice. What variation?
That is awesome, I have a 56% 1bar 1 reset as warlock. Can't wait to see what you've cooked up in the lab.Warlock. Will post when I get home, hopefully someone can optimize it
If you time it right, I think wait for them to walk for a step or two you can land a regular jip. It just reverses the side you're on. Could be good for the first jip to push them into the corner with the rest of the combo.68% Warlock combo 1 bar 1 reset. Still needs optimization...
JIP - b324 - 4 - trance - walk back - JIP - f212 - EX df2 - b324 - 4 - trance - walk back - JIP - f2122 - b2 (short) - db1 (close)
Edit: Sorry for cellphone cam quality.
thanks!If you time it right, I think wait for them to walk for a step or two you can land a regular jip. It just reverses the side you're on. Could be good for the first jip to push them into the corner with the rest of the combo.