GeoffBedlam
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A simple "I disagree" would have been fine, but no, you had to be a dick about it. Fuck you too
A simple "I disagree" would have been fine, but no, you had to be a dick about it. Fuck you too
one tends to lose patience when they see the same bad suggestions over and over again
And instead of contributing to the discussion and explaining why you disagree, you resorted to cheap shots. Good job (Y)
i get tired of explaining why
Kenjutsu's df1 is -10 and has similar purpose.
See this is dumb. Kenjutsu gets punished, I'm positive there is not a single character who can't punish it, for his knockdown overhead meter less but Alien is safe completely and he can do it in the air. Such a dumb character man.
I think Alien's EX Flip should keep armor but remove the armor off at least one of the other armored moves he has. So many armored options Kenjutsu Kenshi feels threatened.
Sources on the plus 18? All the labbin I done has no where near that plus most I ever got was like plus 8 and that's with me losing lots of damage for it not sayin it isn't true I just wanna learn what is done to gain that
maybe +18 comes off a non-practical or optimized damage setup
That would not be great. Tanya has 50 50 wakeups, and the low one comboes. Air EX Flip should be like Jin's ex divekick. No armor, but unsafe and comboes. I made Overhead Flip -8 since its Aliens main ender to his massively negative strings on block that keeps him safe, but doesn't protect him with the mileena's, cassie's and lao's. His acid and his flip are the only pseudo safe thing he has, and he should keep them, but not so that some guranteed punishes not work because of range.
Kenjitsu doesn't rely on df1 to end his blockstrings. The push is safe on block adn gives him space to work with. Without some form of the acid, flip is alien's ender to his blockstrings. Making it unsafe might not be the best idea.
Yeah, but Tanya is a terrible comparison due to her being wholly unsafe on BOTH of her OH and Low armored wake-ups. And why should only the Mileena's, Cassie's, Lao's, and Jason's be able to reliably full combo punish Alien? If you throw out flip just to always be safe, an Overhead that sets up for great oki game, almost guaranteeing an F134 into another flip or snag, a majority of the cast should be able to punish it. -9 would go very far for many of the Alien vs. rest of the cast matchups.
Push is actually -13 on block. Good pushback, but some characters punish it. Jax gets a full combo, for example.
OK first of all, Alien and Tanya are very similar comparisons due to the fact that Alien's EX wakeup game is both unsafe and one comboes while the other doesn't. and YES BOTH are unsafe on both their wakeups. There's no difference except for Tanya it's low and Alien its overhead. Flip in design wasn't meant to be punishable. Like reptile's slash or reptiles overhead flip. It's a situation for a counterpoke or just trying not to die by doing a blockstring and waiting for Alien to recover.
Oh my apologies. Well i guess it's the same with flip then. Safe for the majority, but some can punish it in reversal.
i wish they could bring back the dislike buttons
I'm positive every character in the game can punish regular overhead slice from Kenjutsu. Most jab strings are quicker than 10 frames.