Guide - Dragons Fire Liu Kang Guide: Dragon's Fire variation breakdown. (Outdated)

[CURBOLICOUS]

if your on x1 we should do a couple of matches, only other good liu I've played so far was superiormagik

I'm on Xbox one my gt is CURBOLICOUS

 

[CURBOLICOUS]

F213 fb rc is the only thing that jails. Any other string that is plus on block is only about +2.

Hey bro i have a few questions about the frame traps.

From my testing, i have not been able to get the run cancels to be THAT plus other than F213. Because if what your are saying is true then after any one of those strings into FB RC the opponents cannot even armor if your follow up is within those plus frames. Ive set the cpu to reversal and they armor through. So i figured maybe they are in the range of +1-+3ish.

So is there something im missing? Is it that you have to maybe do a perfect RC to get those frames?
Id like to think im am pretty good but i have not been able to get that much plus frames frim anything other than F213.

I said f213 fb rc is the only TRUE BLOCK string. Meaning you CANNOT armor, xray, reversal etc.

He does have frame traps with all of the strings I've mentioned and they are way more than +2 or 3 on block that's for sure. B3 fb rc after the 2nd hit is a true block string with f213 if you cancel the fireball and rc as fast as possible.

 

[RoboCop]

If the f213 isn't blocked midscreen, is there a way to get anything off a fireball cancel?

 

[Everlast]

If you get hit by F213 mid screen, its easy enough to hit confirm into Dragon Kick or Low Fireball or even Bicycle kick into DK or LFB. And personally i am ok with it if my opponents want to get out of my pressure that way. Lol

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

@AK Harold

You would appreciate this thread

Nice stuff @CURBOLICOUS

 

[CURBOLICOUS]

If the f213 isn't blocked midscreen, is there a way to get anything off a fireball cancel?

Unfortunately no. However if you hit them with f44 and you FB RC you can continue the combo off the hit stun. Same with 112, b34 after second hit, and b12.

@AK Harold

You would appreciate this thread

Nice stuff @CURBOLICOUS

I'm planning on adding more. This is just a few things.

 

[RM_Gamer]

b34 and f21 no longer neutral sucks i used those a lot. curbo u dont have ps4?

 

[Wrath0594]

IMO Liu Kang has one of the best uppercuts in the game.

Everything else is sound, but curious why you think this.

 

[Wrath0594]

b34 and f21 no longer neutral sucks i used those a lot. curbo u dont have ps4?

Ok, I seriously need a link to a full change log.

 

[Voodoo]

Why did they nerf him?

 

[CURBOLICOUS]

I'm gonna update OP when I get home from finals today.

 

[its_ezie]

they most definitely did nerf him. ive been using b23 on block thinking that its still 0 but its -2 now which blows becuase i get poked out now. BUT his 111 string is plus 2 on block

 

[RM_Gamer]

Second hit of 111 sometimes whiffs on crouch blocking. Annoying as hell.

 

[RoboCop]

Second hit of 111 sometimes whiffs on crouch blocking. Annoying as hell.

I guarantee it's the same issue affecting everytjng Jacqui does. Go into practice against Mileena and set her to crouch-block. Watch her height: it goes high, low, highest, low, etc. When she's "highest" then mid attacks will hit her. But when she's in any other state, they will whiff. The same applies to every character without a giant hitbox.

 

[RM AtK!]

Second hit of 111 sometimes whiffs on crouch blocking. Annoying as hell.

nerfed the fucking shit outa himmm

 

[Jfish]

Stupid question. What does rc mean for liu kang.

 

[Jfish]

^^^^ run cancel?

 

[Everlast]

^^^^ run cancel?

Yes

 

[RM_Gamer]

question. what do u do when pressured besides back dash or armor? d1's in this game arent -12 anymore so u cant punish, and kangs pokes r too slow to use for counter pokes. i feel like kangs only good reversal option besides armor is d2 because it's 7f. could his f1 be of better use?

 

[cR Xarakamaka]

f1 6frames. s1 8 frames . b1 9 frames. only time youd poke with liu vs an agressive rushdown wud be if u read theyre going to do a high string. his pokes are awfully slow and his fastest mid hitting move is as fast as his fastest poke. counterpoke them with b12 bicycle or f213 . if you f4 a lot of time they will just jump out as its a low starter.

 

[LiangHuBBB]

is this variation meant to be played keep away game or rushdown style or would you say it rly depends on the match up I play vs?
his fireball keep away game seems quite strong
I haven't went online yet though and just hit the training room a few mins ago

 

[Wrath0594]

is this variation meant to be played keep away game or rushdown style or would you say it rly depends on the match up I play vs?
his fireball keep away game seems quite strong
I haven't went online yet though and just hit the training room a few mins ago

You use the fireballs to force them to approach, but Liu's is generally a strong rushdown character. Even more so because his counterpokes are slow, he doesn't have good reversals, and his wakeups are mediocre so he suffers on the defensive.. The goal is to keep constant pressure on the opponent to do something and make a mistake.

 

[Phosferrax]

Second hit of 111 sometimes whiffs on crouch blocking. Annoying as hell.

Hehe it never whiffs against Oddjob after a bicycle kick he can do 111 and be plus 2 against KL.

 

[LiangHuBBB]

thanks for the quick reply
I have 1 more question
is there a trick in order to release the air fireball this low?
I cant seem to get the air fireball coming out this low after the overhead

thx

 

[MrSunshine]

Still don't have the path on XBONE. Still havnt heard a clear opinion on Liu after patch. How is everyone using Liu now on ps4? Only F213 fbrc, 111 for pressure?