General/Other Is there ever a time...

[ChuckFiasco]

To just say to hell with it, double ice blast for 5%?

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

Absolutely. Particularly against Cage or someone with superior rushdown who you want to make work to get inside, if I hit the B12 bounce into 212, I 2XFreeze just to get distance between us. If I end with a Slide, corner or not, I'm giving Johnny exactly what he wants by leading myself into his reach, but if I keep him away, I've got a better chance of locking him out than he does getting in, especially if he knows I'm not gonna just Slide my way into his grasp.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

end a round. It is unbreakable after all.
If I can't get to my opponent for some reason ... typically it happens in SZ mirrors.

 

[LolingOctopus]

I use it if we're both at low life. If I know the opponent has meter to break and has less than 5% of health its usually wise to do it.

 

[DownfouralitY]

Ive never done it, wow thanks! This could be some good shit. Will definitely start using it.

 

[SunnyD]

If you want 5% unbreakable damage, why not go for a grab and get 10% unbreakable damage?

 

[Dark_Rob]

If you want 5% unbreakable damage, why not go for a grab and get 10% unbreakable damage?

Sometimes you aren't in range for a throw, like in a subzero mirror for instance where there might be an ice clone between you and your opponent.

PS. Has anyone ever tested if throws can be teched by a frozen opponent? Or is it free because they are frozen? I've never tried this because let's face it, if we land an ice blast were going full combo mode.

 

[LolingOctopus]

please correct me if I'm wrong, but if you grab a frozen/tranced/netted/speared... (lets just call it cc'd for crowd control) isnt it possible to break the throw since it considered a physical part of the combo? If I'm right, then its safer to double iceball somebody who has a breaker and less than 5% health

 

[NB Semi Evil Ryu]

I'm almost completely positive that I've seen people use breakers to break out of a throw attempt when frozen.

Not sure about techs, though.

 

[SunnyD]

please correct me if I'm wrong, but if you grab a frozen/tranced/netted/speared... (lets just call it cc'd for crowd control) isnt it possible to break the throw since it considered a physical part of the combo? If I'm right, then its safer to double iceball somebody who has a breaker and less than 5% health

I'm almost completely positive that I've seen people use breakers to break out of a throw attempt when frozen.

Not sure about techs, though.

Sometimes you aren't in range for a throw, like in a subzero mirror for instance where there might be an ice clone between you and your opponent.

PS. Has anyone ever tested if throws can be teched by a frozen opponent? Or is it free because they are frozen? I've never tried this because let's face it, if we land an ice blast were going full combo mode.

Just tested it. You can both escape and break a grab after a freeze. so i guess 5% double freeze or 30% xray are your only options.

 

[NB Semi Evil Ryu]

And there you have it...

 

[Seapeople]

Just tested it. You can both escape and break a grab after a freeze. so i guess 5% double freeze or 30% xray are your only options.

11% with b2 also. I'm pretty sure it can be escaped with armor but I've never actually tested for sure

 

[SunnyD]

11% with b2 also. I'm pretty sure it can be escaped with armor but I've never actually tested for sure

Hmm now theres an idea! im assuming the double freeze will give it unbreakable properties? Too bad the timing would be stricter than a grab or another freeze....

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

Sometimes you aren't in range for a throw, like in a subzero mirror for instance where there might be an ice clone between you and your opponent.

PS. Has anyone ever tested if throws can be teched by a frozen opponent? Or is it free because they are frozen? I've never tried this because let's face it, if we land an ice blast were going full combo mode.

IDK about teching them, but you can use breaker on it.

edit: lol nvm ... I read the next few posts. haha