Broken Ex-Soul Steal

[Phosferrax]

Right, the ex-soul steal has now lost a lot of credibility and Shang's wake-up game just got even worse.

I was aware that the second hit of SS was block-able, I was however unaware that in the corner, once an opponent blocks the second hit of the soul steal they can fully combo Shang before he is able to block in his morphed form.

Playing foxy's Cage in casuals has made me give up hope once i'm trapped in the corner with Shang. I had relied on the ex-SS for at least a little breathing space in the corner and the threat of the wake-up, but now with zero threat i'm really struggling to do anything once Cage or Lao is bullying me in the corner.

Has anyone else ran into this problem, or does anyone have any ideas what to do about it?

DetroitBalln LETHAL LEGEND WoundCowboy

P.S. Shoutouts to NRS

 

[Qwark28]

now thats just retarded

 

[NkdSingularity]

 

[Zwooosh]

From where i was sitting phos, it was far more than bullying.

 

[PND i2 Gaug3]

You didn't hate your opponent enough

Sent from the PND Haters Ball

 

[Phosferrax]

From where i was sitting phos, it was far more than bullying.

I was keeping it PG for the forums.

 

[Red Reaper]

Right, the ex-soul steal has now lost a lot of credibility and Shang's wake-up game just got even worse.

I was aware that the second hit of SS was block-able, I was however unaware that in the corner, once an opponent blocks the second hit of the soul steal they can fully combo Shang before he is able to block in his morphed form.

Playing foxy's Cage in casuals has made me give up hope once i'm trapped in the corner with Shang. I had relied on the ex-SS for at least a little breathing space in the corner and the threat of the wake-up, but now with zero threat i'm really struggling to do anything once Cage or Lao is bullying me in the corner.

Has anyone else ran into this problem, or does anyone have any ideas what to do about it?

DetroitBalln LETHAL LEGEND WoundCowboy

P.S. Shoutouts to NRS

I was testing it against the computer and I kouldn't punish Shang when he was in the korner.. It gives a lot of push back. How exactly were you punished? Fast advancing special?

 

[Zwooosh]

I was testing it against the computer and I kouldn't punish Shang when he was in the korner.. It gives a lot of push back. How exactly were you punished? Fast advancing special?

By cage's f3.

 

[Phosferrax]

Yep, f3.

Zwooosh did I get hit by b3 at all? I can't remember.

 

[Zwooosh]

Yep, f3.

Zwooosh did I get hit by b3 at all? I can't remember.

Nah foxy only ever did dash up f33 nut punch because that's all he can do.

 

[Red Reaper]

If you guys happen to have footage it would help.. I kan't seem to be able to do it. (Maybe I'm doing it wrong?)

If it makes any difference I was trying it on old Shang...

It would help if Shang didn't do 30 different wake ups that no one ever uses before finally doing Soul Steal..

 

[Phosferrax]

That means Jax can do a lovely corner rest to Shang.

Ermac might be able to get a lift off. Lao might be able to ex-spin.

 

[Phosferrax]

If you guys happen to have footage it would help.. I kan't seem to be able to do it. (Maybe I'm doing it wrong?)

If it makes any difference I was trying it on old Shang...

Sorry there wasn't any recorded footage of it :/

 

[PND OmegaK]

I dont get how this is possible if Soul steal is + on block.

 

[Zwooosh]

Sorry there wasn't any recorded footage of it :/

But it has been permanently burned into my brain.

I dont get how this is possible if Soul steal is + on block.

What the second part of the soul steal you can block after it hits you?

 

[Red Reaper]

I dont get how this is possible if Soul steal is + on block.

He said "second hit" which meant to me "get hit by the first, block the second."

There's no frame data on how much that second hit is on block... Maybe Somberness kan help??

 

[Phosferrax]

I dont get how this is possible if Soul steal is + on block.

He got hit by it, but blocked the second hit and combo'd me whilst I was in the morph animation and holding block.

 

[Red Reaper]

But it has been permanently burned into my brain.


What the second part of the soul steal you can block after it hits you?

Unless I kan Sylar my way into you brain for that knowledge it doesn't really help me...

 

[PND OmegaK]

Have you tried recreating this in practice mode? I cant do it with Cage's f3 at all even if I let the first part hit me. Either your controller was messing up or f0xy is using performance enhancing drugs (most likely).

 

[GNG Iniquity]

kan

This hurts my brain! Please stop! It's totally weird reading sentences with correct spelling and punctuation, with a purposely incorrect letter in replacement of every C! lol

 

[Zwooosh]

Unless I kan Sylar my way into you brain for that knowledge it doesn't really help me...

I didn't reply to you though? That soul steal is pretty punishable though if the second hit is blocked, there was enough time for a dash into a 9 frame normal but i never saw Phosferrax try and jump out.

 

[Phosferrax]

I don't have an xbox in london

We can try it tomorrow though. My controller did seem a little wonky yesterday so it may have been that.

 

[Red Reaper]

Have you tried recreating this in practice mode? I cant do it with Cage's f3 at all even if I let the first part hit me. Either your controller was messing up or f0xy is using performance enhancing drugs (most likely).

Eggsackly! lol...
I think something is wrong here... hahaha.

This hurts my brain! Please stop! It's totally weird reading sentences with correct spelling and punctuation, with a purposely incorrect letter in replacement of every C! lol

I'm a grammar Nazi.. 'Tis what I do...

Why kan't you handle the K?

 

[Somberness]

He said "second hit" which meant to me "get hit by the first, block the second."

There's no frame data on how much that second hit is on block... Maybe Somberness kan help??

-24, give or take a frame. The reason it isn't consistent is because the stun changes a tiny bit for whatever reason.

 

[Red Reaper]

-24, give or take a frame. The reason it isn't consistent is because the stun changes a tiny bit for whatever reason.

Thanx Somberness. =) You do so much for us...