Question - Kung Jin Bojutsu vs. Shaolin: which is the better variation for high level play (and why?)

[WakeUp DP]

I'm well aware that A-List is one of the top characters, but he does have losing matchups. So anyways thanks for telling me how I have no clue how a matchup works, when I ask for an explaination on why you think something is the way it is, once again I'm the idiot. I have no problem being proved wrong, the more I can learn, the better. So please do it since I'm clearly missing something.

I wanted to link you a set vs an A-list and Brady but he deleted it. Anyway in it the alist player would always mash attacks in front of ice clone and he wouldn't get frozen, attacks will whiff or either hit GM subz and hit confirm into combos.

A-list rush down is better than subz and his zoning is one of the best in the game too.

 

[SwegZero]

I wanted to link you a set vs an A-list and Brady but he deleted it. Anyway in it the alist player would always mash attacks in front of ice clone and he wouldn't get frozen, attacks will whiff or either hit GM subz and hit confirm into combos.

A-list rush down is better than subz and his zoning is one of the best in the game too.

You mean Brady vs. Xyphox?

 

[WakeUp DP]

You mean Brady vs. Xyphox?

Forgot the name. It may be.

 

[SwegZero]

Forgot the name. It may be.

Zyphox won the set and was wearing soccer outfit. When he won, Brady got mad and ended the video, saying salty stuff. Does that sound familiar? Also, why is this Kung Jin thread about Johnny and Subs now?

 

[Dankster Morgan]

I wanted to link you a set vs an A-list and Brady but he deleted it. Anyway in it the alist player would always mash attacks in front of ice clone and he wouldn't get frozen, attacks will whiff or either hit GM subz and hit confirm into combos.

A-list rush down is better than subz and his zoning is one of the best in the game too.

I know what you're talking about, Brady vs Xinok I believe. I think Brady has beaten him before. Don't get me wrong I don't think it's a terrible matchup but I think SZ has a slight advantage because he is allowed to do what he is good at. His zoning is pretty decent but slide nullifies it because of the arc at a certain distance, his pressure is retarded though. We should continue in a conversation if you want so I don't derail this thread more lol. We may just have to agree to disagree.

 

[SwegZero]

Oh yeah, Xinok I meant. I got mixed up because I watched a KiT video where Zyphox fought Vman and Xinok fought Biohazard, and I always mix them up, apologies.

 

[GrimJack]

I know what you're talking about, Brady vs Xinok I believe. I think Brady has beaten him before. Don't get me wrong I don't think it's a terrible matchup but I think SZ has a slight advantage because he is allowed to do what he is good at. His zoning is pretty decent but slide nullifies it because of the arc at a certain distance, his pressure is (soap bar in my mouth) though. We should continue in a conversation if you want so I don't derail this thread more lol. We may just have to agree to disagree.

I have the same idea. the match up is close to even but still in the advantage of SZ since Cage don't get around clone cancel easily. He got the Ex bf4 to go through the clone but doing so putting SZ full screen where Alist lost his stamina closing in on SZ so he cannot really start his pressure. but when he get in he dominate SZ slow normals

 

[Dankster Morgan]

I have the same idea. the match up is close to even but still in the advantage of SZ since Cage don't get around clone cancel easily. He got the Ex bf4 to go through the clone but doing so putting SZ full screen where Alist lost his stamina closing in on SZ so he cannot really start his pressure. but when he get in he dominate SZ slow normals

Yeah, he can't fireball at most of the screen, and the eclipse kick is a high so if you can anticipate it, the. You get a free combo, put him in the corner and make him your bitch lol.

 

[GrimJack]

Yeah, he can't fireball at most of the screen, and the eclipse kick is a high so if you can anticipate it, the. You get a free combo, put him in the corner and make him your bitch lol.

I really think the reason Tom lost the set is that he didn't know about the MU enough back then. The MU should be 7-3 Kenshi-Shinnok-level but due to Cage crazy stupid pressure it is close to 5-5

 

[GAV]

Ah, little Gav, the infamous Kung Jin hater who just can't resist trolling our threads...

If I had a say in his existence, he would not.

 

[GAV]

Why do you have to rant in this forum?
I think Jacqui is the most bland.

Really? One touch and death by shotgun is less hype than a mopey emo with a stupid bow-staff thing? If Kung Jin had any more feelings, his estrogen-laden stupidity would be contagious. Only binge-watching reality TV and the Oxygen Channel could match actually playing this tool. Kung Jin - where Ellen meets Oprah - with a hint of Meredith Baxter Birney and just a touch of Rosie O'Donnell - and Thelma and Louise live long lives riding unicorns on rainbows up to the chattouille beyond the Golden Gate Bridge, turn right at Golden Girls Lane - follow to the end to get your...

 

[D7X]

Really? One touch and death by shotgun is less hype than a mopey emo with a stupid bow-staff thing? If Kung Jin had any more feelings, his estrogen-laden stupidity would be contagious. Only binge-watching reality TV and the Oxygen Channel could match actually playing this tool. Kung Jin - where Ellen meets Oprah - with a hint of Meredith Baxter Birney and just a touch of Rosie O'Donnell - and Thelma and Louise live long lives riding unicorns on rainbows up to the chattouille beyond the Golden Gate Bridge, turn right at Golden Girls Lane - follow to the end to get your...

I meant by personality but ok. You can't prove opinions to be wrong. You can think it, but it doesn't mean others have to have your opinion. Never met a 41 year old who acts like this...

 

[GAV]

I meant by personality but ok. You can't prove opinions to be wrong. You can think it, but it doesn't mean others have to have your opinion. Never met a 41 year old who acts like this...

A 41 year old with an opinion?

We don't have to come to agreement. We can just disagree. Friends, family, casual acquaintances, even online onlookers are free to disagree. It doesn't even make us bad people.

 

[D7X]

A 41 year old with an opinion?

We don't have to come to agreement. We can just disagree. Friends, family, casual acquaintances, even online onlookers are free to disagree. It doesn't even make us bad people.

I just feel like you're trying to force your opinion onto us. That's how I interpreted it.

 

[Apex Kano]

Sho for saftey Bo for dmg. I would choose saftey when it comes down to it when money is on the line.

 

[GAV]

I just feel like you're trying to force your opinion onto us. That's how I interpreted it.

Isn't that what opinions are?

I don't just think he sucks. He does suck.

 

[RM NoBrows]

Why do you hate Kung Jin, @GAV? What did Kung Jin ever do to you?

 

[D7X]

Isn't that what opinions are?

I don't just think he sucks. He does suck.

No he doesn't suck. 'Nor is he the best. It's an opinion. YOU can think he sucks, that doesn't make it a fact though. =)

 

[GAV]

Why do you hate Kung Jin, @GAV? What did Kung Jin ever do to you?

He's boring.

If you're going to make a gay character, choosing a sad, emo one is the worst choice.

Put him in heels and have him be like - "If you don't like it, come get some - baby."

NRS totally missed the boat with his character.

 

[RM NoBrows]

He's boring.

If you're going to make a gay character, choosing a sad, emo one is the worst choice.

Put him in heels and have him be like - "If you don't like it, come get some - baby."

NRS totally missed the boat with his character.

I play ancestral, which I find to be very fun, so we'll agree to disagree. Plus he has his moments with his quotes

"You face a shaolin!"

Tanya- "a very handsome shaolin"

"You're barking up the wrong tree, sister"

Would it be okay if he wasn't gay and was mopey?

 

[GAV]

I play ancestral, which I find to be very fun, so we'll agree to disagree. Plus he has his moments with his quotes

"You face a shaolin!"

Tanya- "a very handsome shaolin"

"You're barking up the wrong tree, sister"

Would it be okay if he wasn't gay and was mopey?

I hate mopey characters. He's just bland on top of it.

 

[GAV]

No he doesn't suck. 'Nor is he the best. It's an opinion. YOU can think he sucks, that doesn't make it a fact though. =)

In my mind, him sucking is a fact.

 

[D7X]

In my mind, him sucking is a fact.

Yes, in your mind.
But it's not a fact. It's a fact that it's your opinion.
If you say it's a fact you're delusional, because it is your opinion.

 

[GAV]

Yes, in your mind.
But it's not a fact. It's a fact that it's your opinion.
If you say it's a fact you're delusional, because it is your opinion.

...but, in fact, it is a fact - within my mind.

 

[D7X]

...but, in fact, it is a fact - within my mind.

This is just going to be a loop lol.
It's not a fact...