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Which variation do you use the most?

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Triplswing

Triplswing

your soe will BERRN
Reauxbot said:
So are thoughts about Ninjitsu still the same but just different damage?
Ive always loved his armor breaker and now i get to play Leonardo with Scorpion. Legit
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I'm having a lot of fun with ninjutsu now. His ninjutsu strings are actually worth using now, before they were garbage. Seriously. I might make the switch, but to be clear I haven't lost any love for hellfire.
 
Reauxbot

Reauxbot

You think you bad? You aint bad.
Triplswing said:
I'm having a lot of fun with ninjutsu now. His ninjutsu strings are actually worth using now, before they were garbage. Seriously. I might make the switch, but to be clear I haven't lost any love for hellfire.
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Well theres really no reason too. Noonr wants to see scorpion weak again or get the injustice treatment. But noone wants a 2 hitter quitter in a game, with vortex to mention, either.
Seems like theres still solid options and cool damage. Nothing to complain about and thats why i stopped playing Scorpion for a while cause all the hate.
Cant wait for your videos man. You must be busy or something. Pretty excited to see Ninjitsu rise. Any frame changes in that variation?
And also i cant find any of your match videos
 
Triplswing

Triplswing

your soe will BERRN
Reauxbot said:
Any frame changes in that variation?
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Stealth frame changes to be sure. I'm fairly certain b32f2 used to be negative on hit. It's now +10. I think b2 and f2 might be safer now? b2 seems to scale less too. Can't sure about that. Can't sure about a lot of things.
 
Reauxbot

Reauxbot

You think you bad? You aint bad.
Triplswing said:
Stealth frame changes to be sure. I'm fairly certain b32f2 used to be negative on hit. It's now +10. I think b2 and f2 might be safer now? b2 seems to scale less too. Can't sure about that. Can't sure about a lot of things.
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+10? :eek:
Any position to check? Im at work until 1830
 
Triplswing

Triplswing

your soe will BERRN
Reauxbot said:
+10? :eek:
Any position to check? Im at work until 1830
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I'm on my ps4 right now, and it's definitely a +10 hard knockdown. It's making for a good measuring tool as well.

after b32f2 in the corner, I was able to stuff tempest KL's EX cyclone (7f startup) with b4 (13f startup). The +10 reduces the b4 to a 3f startup, and that means that the first and second hit of b4 come out within 4 frames of each other.
 
Reauxbot

Reauxbot

You think you bad? You aint bad.
Omg.
Triplswing said:
I'm on my ps4 right now, and it's definitely a +10 hard knockdown. It's making for a good measuring tool as well.

after b32f2 in the corner, I was able to stuff tempest KL's EX cyclone (7f startup) with b4 (13f startup). The +10 reduces the b4 to a 3f startup, and that means that the first and second hit of b4 come out within 4 frames of each other.
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Omg i gotta learn how frames work in this game. I felt like i was back in Algebra 2 for a minute. Need formulas
 
Triplswing

Triplswing

your soe will BERRN
It's...more like basic math. Kung Lao is at -10, and he does a 7f armored move, which means it takes 17 frames for him to attack.

b4 hits him on the 13th and 16th frame, breaking his armor and stuffing his attack.
 
kivatt

kivatt

Kono Dio Da
See why stealth nerfs? I'd rather they just outright say what they hell they did, instead of unexpectedly finding out.
 
kivatt

kivatt

Kono Dio Da
Reauxbot said:
Sometimes there is stealth buffs.
Cant wait until @Triplswing discovers what good came for Ninjitsu besides the obvious damage. Dont know any Ninjitsu mains. @OutworldKeith i believe
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But I don't know why though?

I personally feel it is disrespectful to just stealth nerf thing without notifying people.
Just keep it 100 and give it to me straight up.

But it is what it is. I'm still going to use Hellfire, and maybe Ninjitsu. Never Inferno. I grew up from that a long time ago
 
Slips

Slips

Feared by dragons. Desired by virgins.
General M2Dave said:
Is 2,1,4 xx FBC still positive on block? How have the combos been affected? Is Ninjutsu a serious threat now?
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It is still positive but any follow up can be armored it feels like. Maybe a perfect FBRC into a d1 jails at best.

Pretty much he has to replace his second set of 214 with a 123 now in combos because ex tele will whiff doing the 214. So he loses a few percent in some cases.

Ninjitsu is legit now I think yes.
 
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Osagri

Osagri

Fear the blade of Osh-Tekk
My internet is dead for awhile so i havent got the patch. Can i still pressure opponent wit 214xxfbc214 or is it unsafe after the patch
 
JDE

JDE

Pick up & kill it & kill it & kill it!
Osagri said:
My internet is dead for awhile so i havent got the patch. Can i still pressure opponent wit 214xxfbc214 or is it unsafe after the patch
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No, it's taken out. You'll have to develop a better mindgame scheme with B3, 21, 11, 21 FBC, stuff like that now. They've also taken out 214 tele 214 Extele combos for all variations. So now, you'll have to get used to using 214 > 21 ExTele or 214 > 123 xxExTelexx for BNBs that require 1 bar of meter
 
JDE

JDE

Pick up & kill it & kill it & kill it!
He's still fine, though. The only thing that I disliked was them taking out 214 tele > 214 Extele combos in all variations.
 
Osagri

Osagri

Fear the blade of Osh-Tekk
I rly liked the HF pressure and now its gone. And hate the tele combos nerf... Just have to adapt i guess. Any info where i can see all patch notes
 
OutworldKeith

OutworldKeith

Noob
Reauxbot said:
Youre the Ninjitsu main correct? Hows it so far? Ive been at work all day.
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Yep! Day 1 main.

Ninjutsu's biggest weakness was the damage output. With the damage buff he's perfect. He still has great anti-armor moves, anti-air, great space control, etc.

We just need to slightly adjust his BnBs.
 
Tweedy

Tweedy

Noob
Ninjutsu was my favorite but I didn't main it because of it's damage.

Now i'm all over it lol. Good stuff NRS.
 
yzzerdd

yzzerdd

levitate levitate levitate levitate
Triplswing said:
I'm on my ps4 right now, and it's definitely a +10 hard knockdown. It's making for a good measuring tool as well.

after b32f2 in the corner, I was able to stuff tempest KL's EX cyclone (7f startup) with b4 (13f startup). The +10 reduces the b4 to a 3f startup, and that means that the first and second hit of b4 come out within 4 frames of each other.
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Wow, +10? That is a game changer for sure. I played ninjitsu at launch but switched to inferno/hellfire like most scorpion players. Gonna have to pick ninjitsu back up now. I still like inferno just for the 50/50 vortex into full combo or throw, and it isn't as bad if you condition your opponent to block high with f2, f4 and overhead demon. The armor stuffing ability and space control of ninjitsu is almost too good to pass up now that the damage has caught up.
 
Slips

Slips

Feared by dragons. Desired by virgins.
Looks like Inferno's damage has been nerfed. I believe there is extra scaling on his low minion grab. :( Looks like Scorp will be a 2 variation character after all.
 
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