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EMPEROR PRYCE said:
What kinda meterless and metered damage are u guys getting for mystic?

I'm hitting 32-34 meterless from OH/low xx teleport and 37ish for a meter. All midscreen, haven't tested corner stuff yet. May lab a bit when I wake up before work.
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That seems about right without spending to many resources... i believe that for this to work EX push life gain and meter burn on the opponent will be what you will be looking for, so sacrificing damage output for that end will end up being more profitable in my opinion... as for corner damage you can get around the same as the best MOS combo in the corner... im getting i think 47% 1 bar

zaf said:
Well, people just seem to sit there waiting for push. They can't really do all that much since EX push catches them pressing anything, jumping.
Holy shit people can't really jump. There is a small deadzone above his head... but anywhere else, when jumping they get suctioned into the MB push. Shits dumb lol.

So since they sit there, you just do whatever you want.
Whiff a standing 1 or a few normals to bait them and punish with push.



B3 into flight into an air normal frame traps them I believe. It needs more testing.
Like they should be able to backdash or armor out if this. but pressing, they should get hit.
I believe there is also a gap when you do F4 into flight into normal.

You can make it safe by doing like F4 flight and then fly away lololol
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Hmmm this is all very interesting stuff, like i said i do like the idea os mystic more than MOS... But if what your saying will stick on live, i think i can go back to it...
 
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14K said:
That seems about right without spending to many resources... i believe that for this to work EX push life gain and meter burn on the opponent will be what you will be looking for, so sacrificing damage output for that end will end up being more profitable in my opinion... as for corner damage you can get around the same as the best MOS combo in the corner... im getting i think 47% 1 bar



Hmmm this is all very interesting stuff, like i said i do like the idea os mystic more than MOS... But if what your saying will stick on live, i think i can go back to it...
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A lot of people will I think. It's fun now. Just need to work on maximizing damage.
 
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So basicly, like PRYCE said , if you want to risk the OH/Low mix up you will net around 31-33% meterless, the combo can be tricky, to get used to but its not execution heavy to be honest, Spending a Bar on TK will not net you extra damage, atleast on the live version atm... you will however steal resources from the opponent which honestly i still believe it to be of worth...

In the corner you can net 47% with a jump in 1 bar, doubt this will happen often but just something to keep in mind. however you can again go for OH/Low combo that will net you with 1 bar depending on your combo somewhere between 39 to 42% ending in normal push or Ex Push...

Im sure with the new frames in Push some stuff will be made much easier to execute compared to now... but i look optimistic at this damage and his new utilities

EDIT: speaking of Resource stealing, can someone plz confirm how much EX TK steals in terms of bar? because in Live its like 25% of one bar, i was hoping that in the beta this would be in the lines of 50%.. so if anyone can test that plz share
 
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14K said:
So basicly, like PRYCE said , if you want to risk the OH/Low mix up you will net around 31-33% meterless, the combo can be tricky, to get used to but its not execution heavy to be honest, Spending a Bar on TK will not net you extra damage, atleast on the live version atm... you will however steal resources from the opponent which honestly i still believe it to be of worth...

In the corner you can net 47% with a jump in 1 bar, doubt this will happen often but just something to keep in mind. however you can again go for OH/Low combo that will net you with 1 bar depending on your combo somewhere between 39 to 42% ending in normal push or Ex Push...

Im sure with the new frames in Push some stuff will be made much easier to execute compared to now... but i look optimistic at this damage and his new utilities

EDIT: speaking of Resource stealing, can someone plz confirm how much EX TK steals in terms of bar? because in Live its like 25% of one bar, i was hoping that in the beta this would be in the lines of 50%.. so if anyone can test that plz share
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You can extend damage off the d2 bf2 combo by doing MBdb1 4 bf2.

I have some other ideas to extend corner damage, but I'll have to lab it up later.
 
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EMPEROR PRYCE said:
You can extend damage off the d2 bf2 combo by doing MBdb1 4 bf2.

I have some other ideas to extend corner damage, but I'll have to lab it up later.
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Yeah thats the corner combo im doing with mystic atm... it nets around 47% there is a execution heavy version of this that will net you a bit more, but its very tricky to space and do properly/consistently... so unless you really need to optimize everything to the max i would pass on this version and go for the easier one...difference in dmg is like 1 2 % at most... This ofc will only spend you 1 bar
 
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The basic OH/low teleport combo can net y ou 34% max, meterless with jump in, which is not to bad actually
 
Undeadmatrix4

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Mystic ermac looks cool af but he was unplayable before. With the lack of a practice mode I cant experiment but maybe you guys found anything cool about him.
 
Skedar70

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I don't play ermac. But from what I have see its ok. But you will have to play it differently sort of like a keep away variation maybe like kenshi. Ermac mains should know better.
 
Undeadmatrix4

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Skedar70 said:
I don't play ermac. But from what I have see its ok. But you will have to play it differently sort of like a keep away variation maybe like kenshi. Ermac mains should know better.
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Not even we know what to do with mystic lol. I'm assuming it's gonna play like kenjutsu, but idk how good it'll be cause the damage output isn't as great as MOS or spectral. In mystic I'm pushing 35% 1 bar but with MOS I'm hitting 41% meterless. I feel like the buffs helped but it'll take a lot of getting used to, especially without vanish or a projectile
 
P3irce

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It wasn't just reo though. It was reo vs honeybee who is one the best mkx players. Not only that but it was buffed dvorah too who may be a top candidate for top 5 characters . You guys should give mystic a chance . If reo and honeybee were having good sets when honeybee was using his main I think it's safe to say mystic is being overlooked
 
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