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MKX is really in a good place right now

Rude

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
buyacushun said:
I think I'll save this post for the many times I wanted to say this on this site.
I made the mistake of loving how Deejay played in USF4. . . . I also found out I like Rolento, Hugo, Cody(except zonk knuckle), Guy, Sakura and most recently Fei Long.



Yes, but I find that using tactics to beat other tactics have the same training aspects as learning to do a combo. You can learn your combo 100% in training mode but it's very different hitting it during a match. There's that "in the moment" factor you can only get from actually playing a match. I feel it's sort of like the test for your training mode studying.

Oh and getting some stuff recreated or setup in training mode is a pain in the ass. That certainly doesn't help and probably impedes actual MU knowledge.
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I'm not sure I agree with that at all. When I learn my combos 10/10 in practice, I don't really drop them unless I'm nervous in tournament.

But this is more of a subjective thing. What works for me might not work for you.
 
M

Mortal Komhat

Worst Well-Established Goro Player Ever
Rude said:
You know, I've asked other Goro players about him. He doesn't sound bad at all.

In fact, after a dozen buffs the only explanation I was ever given about why he is "bad" was a lack of range and allegedly losing to zoning, which other Goro players I've talked to can't even agree on.

I don't think every character is viable, but the ratio of viable to non viable is higher in the former than the latter.
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Yea but that's not what the statement said. It said every character's viable. That's far from the truth. Most characters are viable? Agreed - this game is probably the most diverse NRS game in ages. But not every character's viable.

Again, if he doesn't sound bad, I encourage you to try him out. I might think he's shit tier but he's genuinely fun to play and his tools can be pretty good. Just... don't expect to amount to much with him. I'm also not going to hold it against you if you don't want to because that type of character is definitely not for everyone (and by that I don't mean his type is "bad" - just that his toolkit, general size, etc. may not be to your preference and that is okay!)
 
ZigZag

ZigZag

That Welsh Guy
mercureXI said:
Lucky for us, no one claims that.

MK9 and Injustice were just as unbalanced as MKX was during launch.

And even though it's slowly getting there since last patch (Goro users seem happy), it's still took 5 months to get there, and that's quite long when you try and main a character that was designed with glaring flaws (Kitana at launch made you wonder if they even looked at the frame data before releasing their game).

Game still feels unbalanced. One of many crude examples is how easy it is to zone with Predator (Plasma Caster is godlike, just look at its block adv / hit adv + hitbox), while most "zoning characters" have "high risk/low reward" or "high risk/medium reward" scenarii when zoning. Ask a Kenshi player if zoning with Kenshi feels rewarding when he eats a full combo after going for his awesome 9% teleflurry, compared to zoning with the Ugly Moffo :)

But as long as they will go "tabula rasa" for every game they release, especially in terms of mechanics and framedata, they will have trouble releasing something even remotely close to balanced without having intensive locatests / feedback from actual players.

Then again, I'd be happy just with MKX being as it is right now, if online was stable. Even though I'd still hate Kung Lao :) lol
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Yeah but it got there... like why cry about how long, There's a long list of FGs that never got there.
MKX is pretty good now, I really think if people think this game is "Unplayable" due to balance then they really don't deserve to play it, besides this game is not finished yet anyway. People need to chilllll and level up instead of thinking about how you can make predator etc. worse, you could be thinking... how do I beat predator? because at the end of the day I can ask for things but ultimately my feelings on a perfect game aren't going to happen unless I'm the dev.
 
buyacushun

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
Rude said:
I'm not sure I agree with that at all. When I learn my combos 10/10 in practice, I don't really drop them unless I'm nervous in tournament.

But this is more of a subjective thing. What works for me might not work for you.
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I got no problem hitting combos in this game. For the most part they are one MvC3 level easy. But I believe the best practice is by playing in the match. That's when you can actually get things down to muscle memory for things like MU specific punishes and spacing and such. All the ins and outs that cause yomi, adapting and all that good stuff. But different strokes i guess.
 
iMileena

iMileena

"I will cut a hole in you"
Tbh the only thing i hate about mk games (not just mkx) is its poo ass online, ive gotten alittle adjusted to online and its crap but thats what i have to deal with for now until they fix it (i hope). The game play taught me way more about oki, frame data, and 50/50's in a game which is great! Im happy with the game so far just cant wait to start competing against people in the future ((((((-: LOL
 
Zoidberg747

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
Rude said:
Is it that Goro is unviable...

....or that Goro mains are bad?

Even if he IS as bad as people say despite the MANY buffs he's gotten, every game has low tiers. Move on.
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Most Goro mains dont think he is unviable lol.
 
GAV

GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
I played a guy who was just nasty with a few characters. Afterwards, I gave him dap for his tremendous skill. He thanked me for the matches and told me his last 5 opponents all called him a cheater. He was really good and clearly knew the matchups and tried to keep it where he had the advantage, but he was in no way cheating. Entirely too many people these days would rather make excuses then give credit where its due or put in work.
 
Perdition

Perdition

Your friendly neighborhood cynic
Balance wise...I love where the game is at for sure. But there have been so many failures from NRS and WB since the release of this game, and online net play being one of those, of course. I am content to keep playing. More DLC and support for the game makes me really optimistic. Region lock is a big help on PS4, and living in the Midwest, I get plenty of close connections. But hopefully MKXs "netcode" will improve with time like MK9 did. They certainly have the cash to put in some fixes. I hope it gets done. I would hope they have been working on fixes all this time and are taking their time on releasing it for the next run of DLC. It would be an investment NRS would not regret.
 
EntropicByDesign

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Rude said:
I play wired and my online experience is all right. Could be better, but I can gain MU XP with it.

Clearly based on streams like Fox, Honeybee, Shujinkydink, the online is good enough to train with.

It could definitely be better, but I think people are overstating it.
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The issue is that very few people are able to obtain even that level of quality. Depending on a number of factors, 9/10 players seem totally unable to play the game. (Based on what I have read on TYM and other articles, the number all be closer to like 7-8/10, but either way, its bad)

Myself being one of them. I'm on a wired connection, low latency monitor, router set up to 'favor' MKX. I recently upgraded to 100down/30up, from 80/20. I play several other games just fine. I live in Lexington, KY, so certainly not like a NY City or LA, but I'm just south of Cinnci and Louisville, etc. The point being I don't live in bumblefucked no-where. I live in one of the largest cities in my state, blah blah. I've been through 4 routers, a multitude of settings, I've tried the connection at several different friends houses, etc. Two of my best RL friends who live in the same city, I can't play against online.

That's the issue, some people are able to play MKX passably well, and some can't. It's not that the netcode isn't capable.of providing a playable experience, its just that it requires a very specific set of circumstances that very few people have to begin with, and the nature of these circumstances is such that they can't be duplicated within reason, by a regular person. Ie, I can't move to New York or someplace that has the east coast hub supplying its internet, or bounce around the country looking for a 'sweet spot' for MKX connections.

The code is terribly optimized.

I don't mean to like, jump your post so please don't think that was my intention, I just wanted to state that some people are able to play the game effectively, and some people can't play it at all despite trying like hell. I'm doing everything as 'right' as I can and its just not playable. So its not necessarily a matter of overstating the issue.
 
THTB

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
I don't think the game is as fun anymore, personally...it's a fun game to many, though, so that's all that should really matter right now. If you like the game, just play and support...if not, don't worry about it and play something that you'll enjoy.

Sucks that the online isn't viable for a lot of people, though. It's such a harmful aspect nowadays to not have good online.
 
MetalBender

MetalBender

Nerf everything forever
First off, given that the OP said that this wasn't in regards to the netcode, I find it funny that everyone immediately started bitching about it, and also given the context of the post I think it was clear that he was saying that the game is doing well in the FGC. As in not referring to casuals. As in not referring to how the online plays. And secondly, if all of you people hate this game so much, why are you even on TYM? It makes absolutely no sense to me why you would be on these forums if you think that this game is garbage.
 
mercureXI

mercureXI

Punching bag that throws fans !
MetalBender said:
if all of you people hate this game so much, why are you even on TYM? It makes absolutely no sense to me why you would be on these forums if you think that this game is garbage.
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Yeah it would require a huge commitment indeed to stick with a community that wants you out just because you think NRS should improve (up to 2015 standards) a franchise you do love to no end.

We do agree about that . . .
 
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IrishMantis

IrishMantis

Most humble shit talker ever!!!
THTB said:
I don't think the game is as fun anymore, personally...it's a fun game to many, though, so that's all that should really matter right now. If you like the game, just play and support...if not, don't worry about it and play something that you'll enjoy.

Sucks that the online isn't viable for a lot of people, though. It's such a harmful aspect nowadays to not have good online.
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Out of curiosity, why isn't it fun anymore for you?
 
Rude

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
mercureXI said:
Yeah it would require a huge commitment indeed to stick with a community that wants you out just because you think NRS should improve (up to 2015 standards) a franchise you do love to no end.

We do agree about that . . .
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Your twisting his words around completely. Something you do often to suit your agenda.

No one said the community wants you out. However, ultimately, it's a game. If you aren't having fun playing it, why do you still play?

Your complaints about the netcode aren't illegitimate, but that's only one aspect of the game. Many players have offline scenes and play often and enjoy the game. If your problem is the netcode, shouldn't you talk about it in a thread that's about the netcode?

Having a controversial opinion is fine. Be angry at the net code as much as you like.

At some point though, after that's acknowledged, shouldn't we move on to the next talking point? With regards to this game's health you can discuss the tournaments, character balance, character diversity, frequent streams, literally any other topic that contributes to the game's quality besides netcode.

You're beating a dead horse.
 
countrypistol

countrypistol

Noob
How come nobody has mentioned the whiff issues? Characters shouldn't be able to duck highs by crouch blocking; when crouch blocking highs should cause chip. Then there's the weird stance specific things, breathing hurt boxes, strings with throw immunity during recovery frames. Until moves work as advertised, I wouldn't consider the game to be in a good place.
 
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