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Temjiin said:
16% for push I think they said? To be honest, I think that warrants -25, that's really going to keep people in check.

Also, Spectral looks cool as shit! Picking that up immediately.
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BTW anyone know when the patch will actaully hit?
 
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Temjiin said:
16% for push I think they said? To be honest, I think that warrants -25, that's really going to keep people in check.

Also, Spectral looks cool as shit! Picking that up immediately.
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I don't know, Paulo kind of mumbles so I couldn't hear lol
 
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Predannok said:
yeeeah ive beeing playing vlad from rising thunder religiously and now spectral ermac can fly cancel too :D
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He sure can Fly cancel and do overhead combos but unless you can seamlessly go from Flight block Strings to grounded Lows its still gonna be easy to block for someone who knows what to look for... and im pretty sure he can be outzoned easily
 
Dope Dojo

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The Bomb Diggity
Mystic is the same I think other than damage.

16% is nice. It may be worthwhile to use it to end combos now. Mater of Souls has no changes yet thank god. Spectral sounds ballin. That's how it should have been from the launch of the game. Give that mofoka Marvel Combos.

Xbox gets the patch tonight. Psn tomorrow around 4 probably.
 
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TurboTaco said:
What did I miss?
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Mostly been covered in the thread so far! Spectral can combo into the levitate and now has a string in it and all that juicy stuff (there was a video to demonstrate). Also has an enhanced version of b,f2 now which has a hit of armor and does more damage I believe.

Mystic they only touched on, saying that b,f2 and the enhanced version do more damage (I don't remember if it actually was 16% or not, but I'm completely fine with -25 for damage like that, it's already a good combo-ender as well)

Patch notes will be up any minute now on Twitter!
 
TurboTaco

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  • Ermac - Down+BK now hits low
  • Ermac - Away + BP is now +1 on hit (up from -4)
  • Ermac (Mystic) - Increased Levitate damage to 13 (up from 6) and Tele-Choke to 11 (up from 10)
  • Ermac (Spectral) - Increased Soul Charge damage to 11 (up from 9) and it now has 9 startup frames (down from 10)
  • Ermac (Spectral) - Can now perform Spectral Charge (enhanced Soul Charge)
  • Ermac (Spectral) - Removed 10 frames from Soul Charge recovery
  • Ermac (Spectral) - Can now chain combo FP > BP > FK > BK while hovering
 
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TurboTaco said:
Wait did they make his down 4 a low? I wonder if its still a good anti air now?
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I was actually hoping they would complitly chance that animation, feel like a cat liking hits balls -.-, changes nothing for me tho i dont use D4 i think its "abysmal" AH!... B2 being +1 is actually pretty nice, i like that change... Honestly Telechoke its still a no go for me it requires insane control of distance and precision to make that move work in a real match so ill pass on mystic yet again... Spectral, i dunno i actually need to play it to see if Spctral Charge is a better wake up then Ex Force Blast and if the chain combos actually beat any of my MOS mix ups to warrent me using Spectral7
 
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Away + BP is B2 though, not B1. And the change is on hit. Does anyone even use that move outside of an input error?
Mystic is the same unfortunately, 1 extra damage on the tele-choke is meaningless.
 
Dope Dojo

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You can use B2 run cancel grab for shenannigans, but other than that no. Tele Hang isn't good by itself but you typically don't use that move raw. If TKP does more damage then it's better to end combos with now.

Soul Charge is like -25, unless they make it less negative or give it a shit ton of push back I wouldn't use it as a wake up.
 
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SpecialOne88 said:
Away + BP is B2 though, not B1. And the change is on hit. Does anyone even use that move outside of an input error?
Mystic is the same unfortunately, 1 extra damage on the tele-choke is meaningless.
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yeah my bad i was confusing the strings, but i do use that one in the middle of some of my block strings, and it being +1 is actually nice for me since i do use the string...

Mystic is indeed the same and unfortunally i think its still not as good as MOS

@Dope Dojo oh is it? then my idea of Spectral actually being worth a try just went down the drain... oh well i like MOS and they didnt nerf anything on him so im good
 
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The only thing is soul charge has a bit of push back, so if someone isn't used to punishing it, they may not know. But otherwise it's free combo on him. If they keep it at having 10 frames of startup though it'll still have its uses.
 
Harlequin969

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So early thoughts on the patch is that Ermac is realtively unchanged?
Which is sad because I wanted to renew my love of the character
 
Themata94

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They're comin' outta the Goddamn walls!
I feel like Spectral definitely needed more than a string made out of pre-existing normals and the changes to Soul Charge. It needed new moves and more options in the air. It's flashy, and perhaps people will discover cool things that can be done, but we needed more to sell it as a worthy choice when MoS exists. They had that chance with Mystic as it could cater to a different playstyle, but what's being done with Spectral doesn't seem to do that and is still likely to be overshadowed by MoS. We already have armoured wakeup, an armoured fullscreen attack is nice but Soul Ball & the orbs weren't touched by the patch.
 
Icy Black Deep

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Well you guys did it again. The cry of "Don't touch Ermac!" went out and they didn't! Damned near everyone else got a slew of buffs though.

Now Tremor players were clearly on the ball this time.
 
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