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4x4lo8o

Noob
(this is a comination of 4-5 threads all dealing w/ how to help with dealing with nerves in a tourney setting. FYI. -TYM Staff)

I was at local tournament today and for the second time in a row got knocked out by a local player that I can beat routinely in casuals.

Beyond that frustrating experience, I have a general problem in tournament matches. My execution suffers really heavily - everything from dropped combos to messing up easy inputs for specials and strings to not holding block when I mean to. Beyond that, I have problems with falling into predictable patterns that I'd normally never use, not reacting right to situations I know how to handle, and throwing out desperate, unsafe attacks.

I know experience is likely the best cure, but seeing as I can't get tournament experience whenever I want and it's really frustrating to put in a lot of hard work and see it disappear when you need it what do you guys do to minimize tournament nerves?
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
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Breathing. It sounds so simple and obvious, but trust me, it works. Control your breathing and take deep breaths in between rounds and matches. It's a tool used to calm nerves in general.

Also, chewing gum helps too. Sounds weird but it helps.
 

LEGEND

YES!
The only way i get around tourny nerves is by not giving a fuck. Use anything you can to try and take your mind off the context of the match so you'll play like you normally would

Streamed matches still get me though. i always have it in my head that everything im doing is being judged, so for every mistake i make i try and make up for it by doings something Flashy, which in the end only makes things worse
 
Play in more tournaments. It's honestly really difficult to do much else than that. You need to do it a lot of times and get really comfortable with the whole atmosphere. I've been to, like 5 now? Something like that. Plus monthlies at CoCo before that died. And I only just got over it (mostly) at seasons beatings ascension.

Other than experience there's a few things you can do. One of the most important things you can do is create a ritual. Whenever you approach the station, always sit down and prepare yourself the same way every time. When you go into a button check, always prepare yourself the same way no matter what. Make that station as similar to your home as possible. If you're going to play in tournament with headphones, you need to be playing at home with headphones. If you're going to be playing in uncomfortable folding chairs at tournaments, that's what you should be playing in at home. Get yourself in a situation where as few variables as possible can change, and you'll feel far more comfortable and at ease. You'll get yourself out of your own head; your body will simply do what it knows needs to be done. When you get that cadence down, it's almost like a dance. You just kind of do things without thinking; there's a point where things just become natural.

Speaking from experience, I used to bowl in highschool on the varsity level. Sounds ridiculous, but I enjoyed it a lot because my only opponent was strategy; what my opponents were doing had no bearing on what I was doing (for our purposes -- they really did but it doesn't matter for the points I'm making here). However I'd always follow the following steps when it was time to compete, every single time. And every time that I didn't follow my rituals, I fucked up and did something stupid. Here's my list back from bowling; you can adapt it to your needs for competing in fighting games. I certainly have.

  • When unpacking from my trunk, always pick up the top half of my 4-ball roller with right hand and place on my right side. Pick up the base with both hands, set at left. Attach top half to bottom half, close trunk with left hand. Roll the carrier with my right hand into the SIDE DOOR. Never the front door.
  • Find my team's pair (lanes) for the day, drop off my stuff, order breakfast sandwich from the snaggletooth concession stand lady. Eat sandwich.
  • Return to lanes, and change into bowling shoes. (Note: My shoes had flames on them because I'm a complete badass. Our school's colors were scarlet and gold, so I wore knee high yellow socks. Other members from other teams were in on "the joke" with me and did the same just to be assholes)
  • Clean each ball off in the exact same manner with 3 squirts of cleaning solution. Pull each out in a clockwise fashion. Balls went in order from back to front of the side of the ball return I was beginning on.
  • Take THREE (not two! not four! three!!!) practice approaches to get a feel for how slick/sticky the approach is, and adjust accordingly.
  • Begin warmups. Only the last two approaches were strike shots; the rest were all spare practice. This I would have to play by ear depending upon how much time we were allotted for warm-ups.
  • Whenever it is my turn to bowl, always stand behind and in the middle of the ball return and dry hand until arid. Rosin up as appropriate.
  • Pick up ball, stand in appropriate location given the shot I had to make. Wait exactly three seconds to compose myself and plan my shot, then go into my approach.
  • Bowl a 900 series and fuck bitches.
If I made a mistake on ANY ONE of these points, I was bound to have a bad day. But, when I kept to my rituals and stayed within myself? 10-0 Frothy favor.
Here's the point: Experience can only be gained through time. However one of the most important things you can do to put yourself in the best possible mindset to succeed and grow is to follow rituals. Do everything the same way every time. Every time. E-v-e-r-y-t-i-m-e. You'll be shocked at how effective this is. Eliminating variables is one of the most powerful tools you can learn to use in a very short amount of time. It's no replacement for experience, but an experienced player with no consistency vs. an inexperienced player with hella consistency often times goes in the inexperienced player's favor.
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Mikemetroid

Who hired this guy, WTF?
make friends with everyone, then you will feel in a less I guess "pressured" environment.

I don't really get tournament nerves, but I always feel that I'm in a hella stress free environment, even when shit gets "hectic"
 
Based juggs is correct. I never really thought about it, but breathing is ridiculously important. Don't breathe into your lungs. Learn to take deep breaths through your diaphragm (to practice, only your belly should move for most of the inhalation. Your lungs will only move as they are nearly full with air).

I take a few deep breaths between each game that I play in tournament, I never really gave much thought to it until now. That's a great practice too. I don't really know why, but it works.
 

4x4lo8o

Noob
Breathing advice is good. I play wind based musical instruments, so I know a lot about that. I should try applying that at tournaments.

Chewing gum definitely isn't for me. I'm not sure the 'not giving a fuck' idea is viable either. I like to win, being competitive is what makes the game interesting and giving a fuck is what drives me to improve. I don't think I can turn that on and off in any productive way. I'm ok with losing, I expect it to happen at some point, but not caring during my matches isn't an option.

I think meeting people and making friends at the tournament is a good idea and what everyone should be doing, that's half the point of going to tournaments, but not one that'll help with tournament nerves. Today when I got knocked out of losers I wasn't on stream, the guys I lost to I've been friends with for years, and the only people nearby or watching were people I know well and play with regularly. None of the pressure was anything external, I don't think.


Thanks for the long post, Frothy. It touched on a lot of stuff I had vaguely floating around in my head and have sort of been doing, but I would benefit from pinning it down, taking care of the details, and making into a concrete routine. Not the instant panacea I'd like, but it gives me something to work on
 

Seven

|| Seven ||
I've been to many tournaments and I STILL drop stuff cause of nerves. The BEST solution for me has been music. Buy some sound cancelling headphones and blast whatever music you're into and I GUARANTEE you it will work.
 

HGTV Soapboxfan

"Always a Pleasure"
I honestly didn't get over competition nerves for a long time ( eight years of world class competition in Soap Box Derby). And it didn't involve rituals, or trying to calm myself down in some weird way, although I guess that helps some people. I simply just kept going until I was confident that I was good at what I was doing and to trust myself. But don't worry, we all freeze sometimes. If you watch reo play in tournaments, it even happens to him. What makes him good is that he does not dwell on it, he gets right back into it without second guessing himself.
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
Breathing. It sounds so simple and obvious, but trust me, it works. Control your breathing and take deep breaths in between rounds and matches. It's a tool used to calm nerves in general.

Also, chewing gum helps too. Sounds weird but it helps.
Before anything important taking a deep breath is the best way. Works for pretty much everything.

Also:
Stay hydrated and eat something
Don't put pressure on yourself
Don't freak out if your losing
Just go to have fun

People need to understand that at their first tourneys they wont do well. Hell, it took me a whole year to go better than 1-2 at one. Just go to have fun and meet new people, the second you take it too seriously is the second you set yourself up for failure.
 

BigMilk

Former Divine Power Abuser
Before anything important taking a deep breath is the best way. Works for pretty much everything.

Also:
Stay hydrated and eat something
Don't put pressure on yourself
Don't freak out if your losing
Just go to have fun

People need to understand that at their first tourneys they wont do well. Hell, it took me a whole year to go better than 1-2 at one. Just go to have fun and meet new people, the second you take it too seriously is the second you set yourself up for failure.
yea once i almost lost to this crappy baraka player because i was nervous...jk(about you being crappy)
 

BenGmanUk

Get staffed bro
Play in more tournaments. It's honestly really difficult to do much else than that. You need to do it a lot of times and get really comfortable with the whole atmosphere. I've been to, like 5 now? Something like that. Plus monthlies at CoCo before that died. And I only just got over it (mostly) at seasons beatings ascension.

Other than experience there's a few things you can do. One of the most important things you can do is create a ritual. Whenever you approach the station, always sit down and prepare yourself the same way every time. When you go into a button check, always prepare yourself the same way no matter what. Make that station as similar to your home as possible. If you're going to play in tournament with headphones, you need to be playing at home with headphones. If you're going to be playing in uncomfortable folding chairs at tournaments, that's what you should be playing in at home. Get yourself in a situation where as few variables as possible can change, and you'll feel far more comfortable and at ease. You'll get yourself out of your own head; your body will simply do what it knows needs to be done. When you get that cadence down, it's almost like a dance. You just kind of do things without thinking; there's a point where things just become natural.

Speaking from experience, I used to bowl in highschool on the varsity level. Sounds ridiculous, but I enjoyed it a lot because my only opponent was strategy; what my opponents were doing had no bearing on what I was doing (for our purposes -- they really did but it doesn't matter for the points I'm making here). However I'd always follow the following steps when it was time to compete, every single time. And every time that I didn't follow my rituals, I fucked up and did something stupid. Here's my list back from bowling; you can adapt it to your needs for competing in fighting games. I certainly have.

  • When unpacking from my trunk, always pick up the top half of my 4-ball roller with right hand and place on my right side. Pick up the base with both hands, set at left. Attach top half to bottom half, close trunk with left hand. Roll the carrier with my right hand into the SIDE DOOR. Never the front door.
  • Find my team's pair (lanes) for the day, drop off my stuff, order breakfast sandwich from the snaggletooth concession stand lady. Eat sandwich.
  • Return to lanes, and change into bowling shoes. (Note: My shoes had flames on them because I'm a complete badass. Our school's colors were scarlet and gold, so I wore knee high yellow socks. Other members from other teams were in on "the joke" with me and did the same just to be assholes)
  • Clean each ball off in the exact same manner with 3 squirts of cleaning solution. Pull each out in a clockwise fashion. Balls went in order from back to front of the side of the ball return I was beginning on.
  • Take THREE (not two! not four! three!!!) practice approaches to get a feel for how slick/sticky the approach is, and adjust accordingly.
  • Begin warmups. Only the last two approaches were strike shots; the rest were all spare practice. This I would have to play by ear depending upon how much time we were allotted for warm-ups.
  • Whenever it is my turn to bowl, always stand behind and in the middle of the ball return and dry hand until arid. Rosin up as appropriate.
  • Pick up ball, stand in appropriate location given the shot I had to make. Wait exactly three seconds to compose myself and plan my shot, then go into my approach.
  • Bowl a 900 series and fuck bitches.
If I made a mistake on ANY ONE of these points, I was bound to have a bad day. But, when I kept to my rituals and stayed within myself? 10-0 Frothy favor.
Here's the point: Experience can only be gained through time. However one of the most important things you can do to put yourself in the best possible mindset to succeed and grow is to follow rituals. Do everything the same way every time. Every time. E-v-e-r-y-t-i-m-e. You'll be shocked at how effective this is. Eliminating variables is one of the most powerful tools you can learn to use in a very short amount of time. It's no replacement for experience, but an experienced player with no consistency vs. an inexperienced player with hella consistency often times goes in the inexperienced player's favor.
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You make some good points about reducing variables such as chairs, headphones etc. But in my opinion your pre game ritual is OCD. If any of these variables are outside of your control, such as the sandwich stand being closed for example, you will have lost the positive edge.

If all the rituals fall into place you've essentially given yourself a placebo effect and will probably go on to do well.

I'm not saying a ritual is bad as it can obviously have a benefit. You should probably minimize this for other events to stop things outside of your control though.

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4x4lo8o

Noob
Had another very poor tournament showing today. I tried playing Sheeva(a character I enjoy playing, but would never use at a tournament I was taking particularly seriously) and it didn't help at all. My hands shake so much
 

Insuperable

My mom tells me I'm pretty
Hi friends

I need help

I still can't get over tourney nerves after 4 years

Is it time to pack it up, or does it just mean I need to grind the game more?
-Not sure if nerves come from lack of knowledge or tournament setting. I'm nervous throughout the tournament, but extremely nervous on stream. Very bad shaking on stream.

Music doesn't really work. I think the nerves are more from a psych thing, rather than a comfort level

Discuss
 

BloodyNights

"My kunai will find it's mark."
When you say nerves do you mean like you drop combos? Or start making poor decisions/have trouble all around?

Don't know how to prepare for it, besides just constantly going back, preferably locals. You'll eventually get over it. If you want to stress yourself out, MKX on hardest has some annoyingly difficult CPU that reads your inputs. You'll be shocked to have actually landed a hit, that when you do you might drop your combo. Play that enough times, and you'll do much better in high stress inducing situations.

However get some offline games in casuals when you can because the hardest cpu will tend to make you forget you can mix people up due to them always reading and punishing you for it lol
 

Hades

Noob
You need to take a step back and think about your game plan and what your going to do. Hype yourself up in your head and dont talk yourself down, that brings on the nerves. Remember you've already lost if you think your going to lose.

Do not look at where the tournament may take you. Don't be like if i win 3 matches im going to have to face, REO, dude im fucked theres no point even trying. Look at your next match and take it match by match. The less things you have to think about the better.

Being around for 4 years you should have a good scene behind you so ensure you have someone to back you up. Listen to what they say and if they start saying things like 'you got this man' and i know you can do this, this is what we've been practicing' take those things in and feed off the positive energy. The more your mind thinks your going win the less nervous you get.

This may seem obvious but breathing. They use it in yoga and why not use it in tournaments. If your really in a tough spot focus on your breathing. Slow your breaths down and count them. This will relax you and get you on the right track. Use this before matches, if you lose a close match etc. use between games not during though.

Basically the thing you need the most is postivity. Get positive people around you and soak that positive shit up and the more you back yourself the more comfortable you will find it at every tournament trust me. Once you take a step back and change your mind frame, you'll become a better tournament player who's confidence will grow more and more.

Take my advice on this matter. I've been doing tae kwon do for 12 years and i never had nerves until i got my black belt. Once i started entering tournaments after i got my black belt i would get really nervous before tournaments. Like shaking, trouble breathing nervous. I went to a few tournaments like this before my instructor sat me down and helped me with those things listed above. Now it wont happen straight away but give it a few tournaments and you will notice your confidence grow with every event you attend. Good luck my man.

TLDR... Positivity is key. Positive frame of mind, relaxed body and brain. Your brain is what controls it all and at the end of the day it is something you can change it just can require work.