It's funny cause I wasn't HOWEVER I read that on TYM verbatim word for word from someone else lolAt KIT I had to beat m2dave (Mario) to get into top 8
also pig were you referring to my tweet?
AK elitegoomba @H_wasted · Jul 11
either 16 bit is godlike and we all suck, or catwoman is a good character
I stand by this logic
i agree with what you are saying, but what you are describing isn't me. https://www.youtube.com/user/zyph0x all the tech i've ever found i posted, not once have i hid tech, and if i ever said i was going to i succumbed and posted it anyway. i could be friends with all the flash players in the world, still doesn't take away my competitive drive to be the best and to be known as the best with a character or player in general. then you have people who are going around naming "best of said character" left and right and in this particular post i wasn't even mentioned. yes i may have an ego problem and its honestly more than meets the eye, some people just want to be the best or considered the best, and i believe most of us do but for social reason don't announce it like some do. in all honest i want to be the best player in the world, thats my goal, and my first to is to conquer my character since i am a character loyalist. i know i not the best player in the world, but i worked hard everyday to get where i am with flash (hence my goal to be the best flash). once i thought i did it i tried to get better as a player, boost up my fundamentals and win tournaments. then i read all this stuff about how honeybee is now the best flash and if your ego doesn't take a hit even slightly then your in the FGC for the wrong reason.This to me is the most toxic of all attitudes. It's honestly sickening. It reminds me of my 14 (young and prepubescent) year old self in 2009, as a beginning Rose player in SF4.
And this is my good transition to why I think the NRS community cannot advance unless they get over it.
So in 2009, I was a Rose player that only played online because I was 14 and couldn't go to local tournament let alone travel. I had a high online Rose rank though and people who played me online thought I was the best, but of course, Luffy (2014 EVO champion) was winning all the french tournaments and beating Daigo and was regarded as the best Rose, as he is. I simply refused to let it rock and I argued about the being the best Rose player, even when I had little results. As time passed, I got more and more results, and I still argued myself the best while Luffy was still winning the french tournaments. I hid all my tech and I had a lot of sick shit with Rose orbs that no other Rose did or knew and I didn't share with anyone because I wanted to only use to it myself. That's even more toxic, because our character couldn't advance and all the Rose players were not in good standing with one another.
But one day, I realized that being friends with the other Rose players and being friends with Luffy (we talk strats all the time) is the best, and it doesn't matter who is better, because we both benefit from the mutual relationship, he shares tactics with me and I share tactics with him. He WON EVO, I got 13th. It doesn't take anything away from me that he won, and my placing is nothing to scoff at. I'm still one of the best players in North America and he just got me that one tournament. We don't care who is better, we just get along, and no other Rose player cares who is better, and the only people who are using this discreprancy in placement are idiot stream monsters, that I shouldn't even let bug me.
But if all we care about is being the best with a character, then you won't advance as a tournament player and the community fails to advance because more likely than not, you're gonna hide something that 'separates' you as a player, which honestly, you shouldn't be hiding your tech because if you give tech to someone else, they will only find new ideas in terms of tech that they'd be willing to share with you.
But too bad the NRS community is unfortunately stuck in the vortex. Just the other day, there was an argument about best Wonder Woman, and I didn't even entertain it, I just gave props, because honestly, who cares? There should be more than one good player for your character so there will be things to be found.
If all you care about is affirmation to become the best with a character, then you're in the FGC for the wrong reason.
BTW @AK Pig Of The Hut I play Street Fighter for different reasons then the ones you listed.
Oh I knowThis to me is the most toxic of all attitudes. It's honestly sickening. It reminds me of my 14 (young and prepubescent) year old self in 2009, as a beginning Rose player in SF4.
And this is my good transition to why I think the NRS community cannot advance unless they get over it.
So in 2009, I was a Rose player that only played online because I was 14 and couldn't go to local tournament let alone travel. I had a high online Rose rank though and people who played me online thought I was the best, but of course, Luffy (2014 EVO champion) was winning all the french tournaments and beating Daigo and was regarded as the best Rose, as he is. I simply refused to let it rock and I argued about the being the best Rose player, even when I had little results. As time passed, I got more and more results, and I still argued myself the best while Luffy was still winning the french tournaments. I hid all my tech and I had a lot of sick shit with Rose orbs that no other Rose did or knew and I didn't share with anyone because I wanted to only use to it myself. That's even more toxic, because our character couldn't advance and all the Rose players were not in good standing with one another.
But one day, I realized that being friends with the other Rose players and being friends with Luffy (we talk strats all the time) is the best, and it doesn't matter who is better, because we both benefit from the mutual relationship, he shares tactics with me and I share tactics with him. He WON EVO, I got 13th. It doesn't take anything away from me that he won, and my placing is nothing to scoff at. I'm still one of the best players in North America and he just got me that one tournament. We don't care who is better, we just get along, and no other Rose player cares who is better, and the only people who are using this discreprancy in placement are idiot stream monsters, that I shouldn't even let bug me.
But if all we care about is being the best with a character, then you won't advance as a tournament player and the community fails to advance because more likely than not, you're gonna hide something that 'separates' you as a player, which honestly, you shouldn't be hiding your tech because if you give tech to someone else, they will only find new ideas in terms of tech that they'd be willing to share with you.
But too bad the NRS community is unfortunately stuck in the vortex. Just the other day, there was an argument about best Wonder Woman, and I didn't even entertain it, I just gave props, because honestly, who cares? There should be more than one good player for your character so there will be things to be found.
If all you care about is affirmation to become the best with a character, then you're in the FGC for the wrong reason.
BTW @AK Pig Of The Hut I play Street Fighter for different reasons then the ones you listed
Says the fucking idiot who sits home at their keyboard criticizing people like me while I spend my time and money to travel to these tournaments.
The thing is, is that almost every community has their shitters. And the shitters that you speak of are often the ones that are most vocal. I've been playing competitive games for years, ranging from Counter Strike to Dota to World of Warcraft to Halo. And no matter how well you play or what you do for the community, there will always be people there to shit on you. It's when you sift through the piles of shit and find people you truly enjoy talking to and playing the game with is where the fun is. I have had the fortunate honor of making friends with people like Pig and Wound and Ducky because we all share similar philosophies and have fun talking to each other. I have been in the FGC for a little over a year now, and I'm having the most fun now then I was having in any other game before. Now it may not be the same for you, but you'll find these soulless fuckers everywhere. Just ignore them and keep posting your tech/character development (or don't) and keep being yourself. Because through the piles of shit you will probably find awesome people to talk to. If you want to change characters for a matchup, do it. Who the fuck cares about what these idiots think.
DEG straight up play who you want to play. Not gong to lie i was all bleh when you didnt pick zatanna at CEO. I understand why you did it though. Your Zatanna is really good and its great to see you play her. The few games we got to play at FR were really fun and your a cool dude. ignore the people who hate for what you did by not picking zatanna. Play who you want and keep getting better. Your aquaman is coming along. If you want to play him then do it. People will just have to deal with it. But seriously why couldnt you pick aqua against me at FR.
. JK 
Yeah, this whole "Being the best with your character" thing is silly, a lot of characters at a high level only 1 have representative placing and it sucks, you think I like being the only Lobo to place? The Lobo forums are silent. Thankfully I do exchange tech and talk MU's with some people now though, but for the longest time I had no one to level up the character with with. Theres so many things I know now that would've helped me months ago.
@EGP Wonder_Chef so can we calm down now cheffrey?
As I told Sajam, Fair Enough. Just don't be surprised when your viewers lose respect for you and don't cry about it. I respect Captain Oxygen, 16-Bit, Pig, Digit for being loyal to their characters.
FTR I already really liked u a lot but u get major brownie points for this post
Why should they lose respect because they've decided that they don't want to lose at the character select screen anymore? You say they're taking the "easy way out", but tell me, what exactly is the hard way out? If they keep trying they'll find that one magical piece of tech that'll turn the MU on its head? This isn't some kind of fairy tale. After spending countless hours in the lab trying to figure out a MU then coming to the conclusion that your character is simply beaten, what's the problem with using another character? I don't understand at all.
NW DEFINITELY HAS SOME REAL HIDDEN MIXUP HERE OR THERE. WE JUST HAVEN'T FOUND IT YET!
And you never will. Because you are not a character loyalist
Hello.Just gonna remain the "random person" that I am and come in here to say hi to everyone
I always find it funny how there's this consensus that SF4 is some super deep and technical game compared to MK9. It's not. They pretty much balance out in terms of depth, just in different ways.
Lol, I get that watching low tiers win a match is hype. But at the same time, you're encouraging those individuals to keep with their characters instead of having a plan for their losing MUs. Basically what I'm trying to say is, you'd rather watch them stick with a character and LOSE instead of doing everything in their power to win? What a supporter you are.
Nice man I'm all about inspiring people to throw some heavy ass dumbbells aroundWhen I see you at the break. I wanna arm wrestle. Just.hit the gym. 70lb for biceps something light
People spend a lot of money/time at these tournaments, when they're down 2-0 on stage, the last thing they care about is "what do the people on stream think of me?". In the future I'd probably use different characters in tougher matchups. I lost 3-0 in a terrible matchup, what do I do? Just accept the fact I'll realistically never be able to win the matchup in tournament or buckle down and learn a counter?
No. I'm the same way, but when other people have traveled more and in that vein put in more time (not saying you didn't play everyday), you just have to hold that until you can go out to prove you're better.
This is why you're one of my favourite people that I've met from playing this game. Every point you made is just perfect here.This to me is the most toxic of all attitudes. It's honestly sickening. It reminds me of my 14 (young and prepubescent) year old self in 2009, as a beginning Rose player in SF4.
And this is my good transition to why I think the NRS community cannot advance unless they get over it.
So in 2009, I was a Rose player that only played online because I was 14 and couldn't go to local tournament let alone travel. I had a high online Rose rank though and people who played me online thought I was the best, but of course, Luffy (2014 EVO champion) was winning all the french tournaments and beating Daigo and was regarded as the best Rose, as he is. I simply refused to let it rock and I argued about the being the best Rose player, even when I had little results. As time passed, I got more and more results, and I still argued myself the best while Luffy was still winning the french tournaments. I hid all my tech and I had a lot of sick shit with Rose orbs that no other Rose did or knew and I didn't share with anyone because I wanted to only use to it myself. That's even more toxic, because our character couldn't advance and all the Rose players were not in good standing with one another.
But one day, I realized that being friends with the other Rose players and being friends with Luffy (we talk strats all the time) is the best, and it doesn't matter who is better, because we both benefit from the mutual relationship, he shares tactics with me and I share tactics with him. He WON EVO, I got 13th. It doesn't take anything away from me that he won, and my placing is nothing to scoff at. I'm still one of the best players in North America and he just got me that one tournament. We don't care who is better, we just get along, and no other Rose player cares who is better, and the only people who are using this discreprancy in placement are idiot stream monsters, that I shouldn't even let bug me.
But if all we care about is being the best with a character, then you won't advance as a tournament player and the community fails to advance because more likely than not, you're gonna hide something that 'separates' you as a player, which honestly, you shouldn't be hiding your tech because if you give tech to someone else, they will only find new ideas in terms of tech that they'd be willing to share with you.
But too bad the NRS community is unfortunately stuck in the vortex. Just the other day, there was an argument about best Wonder Woman, and I didn't even entertain it, I just gave props, because honestly, who cares? There should be more than one good player for your character so there will be things to be found.
If all you care about is affirmation to become the best with a character, then you're in the FGC for the wrong reason.
BTW @AK Pig Of The Hut I play Street Fighter for different reasons then the ones you listed
