What's new

Ben Affleck cast as the new Batman in Man of Steel 2

BenGmanUk

Get staffed bro
I liked him in Argo and good will hunting. I'm sure that family guy scene didn't do him any favours either.

Batman isn't exactly a tough character to play. I'll reserve judgement.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
The basic gripe, it would seem: Affleck, while fine as a respected filmmaker of Oscar-winning films, i.e., "Argo," was a lousy star of popcorn movies, in general, and of superhero movies, in particular, i.e., "Daredevil." (As a side note: Affleck's work as Superman in "Hollywoodland" is driving less of the fury because, one, Affleck wasn't playing Superman as much as he was playing actor George Reeves, and, two, Affleck is quite good in "Hollywoodland.")
And so the backlash is off and running and wrong. Here's why:


1. Nolan seems to know what he's doing. If you would give the benefit of the casting doubt to any producer, you would give it to the filmmaker behind arguably the greatest Batman movie of all, "The Dark Knight." (That is, you would do this if you weren't on a certain social media site...)


2. Twitter is not exactly known for its calm, reasoned thinking. It's time to take a breath, a step back and perhaps a visit to a site with a more level-headed approach to matters of global import. You know, like, Reddit. (And, seriously, the Affleck discussions on Reddit read a tad less doom-y and gloom-y.)


3. Affleck wouldn't implode his career twice. The man cried at the Oscars. He knows where he was after "Gigli." He knows he climbed out of an abyss. He did not just announce his plan to star in "Daredevil 2" or "Surviving Christmas: New Year's Eve."


4. At first glance, name-brand stars rarely seem right as superheroes. And that's why the likes of Christopher Reeve, Henry Cavill and, to a degree, Christian Bale, who was well-known, but not Affleck-well-known, work so well in capes it takes less effort for us to suspend our disbelief. Believe this: If Twitter was around when Michael Keaton was cast as Tim Burton's Batman, things would've gotten just as overheated. (Exhibit A: A 1988 letter to the Los Angeles Times, "Mr. Mom as Batman?") Lesson learned: Try to reserve judgment until you actually see the film (or at least the teaser clip at Comic-Con).


5. Affleck isn't the Affleck of old, he's old now. By which we mean he's 40-plus 41, to be exact, as of today. This makes him easily the oldest actor to be cast as an on-screen Caped Crusader, and this makes the choice interesting. The age factor also makes Affleck a good fit (and foe) for Cavill, who although a relative youngster of 30, put the "man" back in Superman in "Man of Steel." In any case, there's enough here to warrant a let's-see-what-we-got-here approach.
6. You should've seen this coming. The fanboy press was reporting on Affleck's possible Batman ambitions as far back as the Oscars. Really, some of you should've worked through your "NOOOO" phase by now.


7. Two words: Robert. Pattinson. Don't laugh, don't scoff and don't go off on how the "Twilight" movies sucked. The "Twilight" franchise was a phenomenonit worked and it worked, in part, because of Pattinson, who, oh, by the way, was the subject of petitions and the cause of much hair-pulling and exclamation point-using when he was cast as Edward Cullen. The Pattinson example could be swapped out here for any other number of casting outrages that turned out just fine (i.e,. Vivien Leigh in "Gone With the Wind," Tom Cruise in "Interview With the Vampire," and, yes, Keaton in Batman). Your first impression is not always right. In fact, sometimes it's quite wrong.
 

Lord Beef

Death Metal and Trance
I dunno man. I agree about not counting chickens before they hatch..but damn. I feel like this coulda been a 3rd choice or something. I don't see him being bad as Batman....but I don't know if he can pull of Bruce Wayne. Knowhattamean?
 

SilverKeyMan

Dropping Combos like a MotherFucker!
To be fair, how many people really knew who Christian Bale was prior to Batman Begins? I'd only seen him in American Psycho and The Machinist, two movies that none of my friends had ever seen.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
I dunno man. I agree about not counting chickens before they hatch..but damn. I feel like this coulda been a 3rd choice or something. I don't see him being bad as Batman....but I don't know if he can pull of Bruce Wayne. Knowhattamean?
When has Nolan miscast someone in any movie he's been director/producer of?
 

Lord Beef

Death Metal and Trance
When has Nolan miscast someone in any movie he's been director/producer of?
Fair statement, I reckon. I have faith, don't get me wrong. I am just a bit.....apprehensive. But on that note, you are right. Nolan is gdlk with casting. I guess I'm put off because Affleck is not from his usual pool of talent. Hardy, Bale, Levitt, Decaprio etc. But hey, I am all for redemption. He could end up being the best batman since Keaton.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
Fair statement, I reckon. I have faith, don't get me wrong. I am just a bit.....apprehensive. But on that note, you are right. Nolan is gdlk with casting. I guess I'm put off because Affleck is not from his usual pool of talent. Hardy, Bale, Levitt, Decaprio etc. But hey, I am all for redemption. He could end up being the best batman since Keaton.
Also Afleck is really awesome, he has really 2 bad movies out of his huge line up

Gigli (I blame Lopez and him banging her at the time 100%)
Daredevil (Just awful)
 

Lord Beef

Death Metal and Trance
Also Afleck is really awesome, he has really 2 bad movies out of his huge line up

Gigli (I blame Lopez and him banging her at the time 100%)
Daredevil (Just awful)
You're right, his resume is pretty impressive. But for me....no matter what he is doing, I always see "Ben Afleck playing so and so". I don't ever get lost in a character. To me, THATS the issue.
 
I dunno man, Eckhart was pretty good.
Yeah I'm thinking it was more a problem of writing the next movie so they killed him early in the dark knight "okay Harvey and joker can be villains next movie, awesome"
*heath dies
"okay Harvey dent can be main villain" *hardy and bane
"fuck it, kill him off" lol
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
You're right, his resume is pretty impressive. But for me....no matter what he is doing, I always see "Ben Afleck playing so and so". I don't ever get lost in a character. To me, THATS the issue.
He has way more to risk than gain honestly, which is what clooney is saying.

He makes good points especially the ones where he says "If it's bad you will receive all the blame" and "If its terrible it will never go away" citing how people still bring up how terrible Batman and Robin was

I thought it was pretty telling when clooney in the article said, he kept asking himself "What could I have done to make it better" and when you get down to it, nothing. He could have put on the best performance of any Actor's life and the movie would still absolutely suck shit and he'd receive all the blame
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
Yeah I'm thinking it was more a problem of writing the next movie so they killed him early in the dark knight "okay Harvey and joker can be villains next movie, awesome"
*heath dies
"okay Harvey dent can be main villain" *hardy and bane
"fuck it, kill him off" lol
yea thats the writing error of it, wasnt the actor's fault
 

Colonel-Gilgamesh

Hates NRS for making me not like Superman
I actually don't know how this movie will turn out. For one, unless they're super extremely poor choices with insufficient actors(This summer Rob Schneider as Rhett Butler in the 20xx remake of Gone with the Wind), casting cannot be judged and only the performance should be.

Few things people need to remember:

1) Man of Steel was significantly more like Batman than Superman(from what I heard. I haven't watched it, but I've heard enough about it from sources I respect to know some spoilery things that piss me off). It was(comparably) violent and gritty and not very Superman esc. Having Batman in could allow the writers to have him be the magnet for all the dark stuff and let Superman be Superman. Superman/Batman have such a wonderful dichotomy that they can play with so much in a movie, and it would be a shame to see Batman's dark tone overshadow the whole movie.

2)Batman Begins set the stage for the Dark Knight.

3)Michael Keaton.

4) Unlike in the Nolan films where Batman was the focus, Batman shares the screen with Superman, and I highly doubt that there will be much time or both as Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent outside of the initial meeting and a few scenes. This likely means Ben won't have to put a lot of effort into playing Wayne and can focus mostly on Batman

5) What I want to know is how Bryan Cranston will play Lex Luthor(Rumor). And who the Joker is gonna be