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Aside from Gunslinger, the changes NRS made to Erron Black are grossly unfair compared to other characters. Now before someone comments (thats if this gets any replies) please don't tell me about your character nerfs, idc, this is about my boy Erron Black.
1. Overhead slowdowns
Characters had OH's slowdowned to around 18-20 frames. Which is respectable, if you are on your A game, you can react to it.
Erron Blacks MAIN normal (F1) got nerfed to 23 FRAMES from 16. While Ermac's OH barely got touched WTF? Its so god damn slow, if you get hit by it, you should quit the game.
Erron basically lost his main 50/50 ( F1/B3) which I think is fine with the new direction this game is going. BUT he got nothing in return for it! He already had lousy mids to begin with, and now his only good overhead is useless! Only "decent" one, and thats pushing it, is F3.F1 is too slow to use as a footsie to whiff punish now as well.
Oh and did I mention? IT'S STILL -14 AND HAS A GAP.
2. Marksman is dead because of the stamina changes. He was already a low tier cancel character. Pretty much all his cancels left him negative. Who cares about the ones that left him plus, you just D1 and call it a day. His zoning is a freaking joke as well lmao.
3. Outlaw is totally trash now. They didn't adjust ANY of his sword moves that EB players were complaining about. All they did was remove armour from DB4 (sand toss re-stand), made it -5 if you ex it (-20 non ex) on block and called it a day. WHY would you ever EX DB4? There is literally no point, it doesn't re-stand airborne opponents, it only jails from B32 (every other string you can just armour out), Its slow as hell (no point in using it to catch people running at you). In every situation, its better to use ex-sand that leaves you plus and is 2 hitting.
He has so many variation specific sword moves that are totally worthless AND they did absolutely nothing about them.
They could of at least made F2 (his other mid) 9-10 frames. It would of helped Outlaw as his F22 leaves him at +1 or +2.
I honestly believe NRS seriously just applied the universal changes to Erron to make him fit in the new game and called it a day. No thought went to any of his changes.
1. Overhead slowdowns
Characters had OH's slowdowned to around 18-20 frames. Which is respectable, if you are on your A game, you can react to it.
Erron Blacks MAIN normal (F1) got nerfed to 23 FRAMES from 16. While Ermac's OH barely got touched WTF? Its so god damn slow, if you get hit by it, you should quit the game.
Erron basically lost his main 50/50 ( F1/B3) which I think is fine with the new direction this game is going. BUT he got nothing in return for it! He already had lousy mids to begin with, and now his only good overhead is useless! Only "decent" one, and thats pushing it, is F3.F1 is too slow to use as a footsie to whiff punish now as well.
Oh and did I mention? IT'S STILL -14 AND HAS A GAP.
2. Marksman is dead because of the stamina changes. He was already a low tier cancel character. Pretty much all his cancels left him negative. Who cares about the ones that left him plus, you just D1 and call it a day. His zoning is a freaking joke as well lmao.
3. Outlaw is totally trash now. They didn't adjust ANY of his sword moves that EB players were complaining about. All they did was remove armour from DB4 (sand toss re-stand), made it -5 if you ex it (-20 non ex) on block and called it a day. WHY would you ever EX DB4? There is literally no point, it doesn't re-stand airborne opponents, it only jails from B32 (every other string you can just armour out), Its slow as hell (no point in using it to catch people running at you). In every situation, its better to use ex-sand that leaves you plus and is 2 hitting.
He has so many variation specific sword moves that are totally worthless AND they did absolutely nothing about them.
They could of at least made F2 (his other mid) 9-10 frames. It would of helped Outlaw as his F22 leaves him at +1 or +2.
I honestly believe NRS seriously just applied the universal changes to Erron to make him fit in the new game and called it a day. No thought went to any of his changes.
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