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TORYUKEN 4: Stronghold (May 16th-17th) + $500 Pot Bonus MKX

TORYUKEN 4: Stronghold

Calling all FGC of Canada. Gather around on Victoria day weekend and bring forth your skills in Fighting Games. We are to be invaded yet again by surrounding countries. If foreign players want to come and disturb our peace, let them come. Join the battle and Protect The North.

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Edit: TORYUKEN 4 is now powered by Enthusiast Gaming Live. Not only will you enjoy TORYUKEN 4, you can also enjoy the rest that EGL convention can offer.

Convention Information Here:
https://www.picatic.com/enthusiastgaminglive
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TRAILERS:

Coming soon...

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FACEBOOK PAGE:

https://www.facebook.com/events/893675634015908/
Invite friends and post up once you Pre-Registered. Let people know that you are coming to cause havoc.

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DATE:

May 15th - Capcom Team Tournament
May 16th - Singles Tournament
May 17th - Finals Day

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LOCATION:

Toronto International Centre
https://www.facebook.com/TorontoInternationalCentre

Address: 6900 Airport Road, Mississauga, Ontario L4V 1E8

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DIRECTIONS:

http://www.internationalcentre.com/about-us/contact-us/directions.html

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VENUE FEES:

$35 - Official Game Registration (USF4, UMvC3, GGxrd, KI, MKX, INJ, BB, KOFXIII, TTT2)
$20 - Side Games Registration Only (P4, VF, KOF98UMFE, ST, DOA)
Note: If you are just playing 1 (ONE SIDE GAME), the venue fee is $20. If you play 2 or more side games, the venue fee is $35.

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To make sure everything runs on schedule accordingly, we will only be doing ONLINE REGISTRATIONS. There will be NO DOOR REGISTRATIONS for the official games. Do not miss the cut off dates for the TORYUKEN 4. We will not accept late registrations.

________________
PRE-REGISTRATION:

There are two ways to Register for TORYUKEN 4:
1) Tickets can be purchased here:
https://www.picatic.com/enthusiastgaminglive
2) You can catch me (Russell) in TTT x A&C World Casuals if you want to pay by CASH.

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SPECTATOR FEES:

$10 Per Day - Doesn't matter if it's Saturday or Sunday, you will get a wristband to show you are a spectator. SPECTATORS CANNOT COMPETE IN ANY OFFICIAL TOURNAMENTS

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OFFICIAL GAMES:

ULTRA STREET FIGHTER IV (360) + $1000 Bonus
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

ULTIMATE MARVEL VS CAPCOM 3 (360) + $250 Bonus
Double elimination tournament
3 out of 5 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

ULTRA STREET FIGHTER IV TEAMS (360)
$10 per team
2v2 Team Tournament

ULTIMATE MARVEL vs CAPCOM 3 TEAMS(360)
$10 per team
2v2 Team Tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
2 out of 3 games per semi final match
2 out of 3 games per grand finals

INJUSTICE: GOD'S AMONG US (PS3) + $100 Bonus
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
3 out of 5 games per match
All Characters Allowed

MORTAL KOMBAT X (PS4) + $500 Bonus
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games
3 out of 5 games Semis
3 out of 5 games Grand Finals
Winner is Variation Locked
Stage is random always

GUILTY GEAR Xrd (PS3) + $250 Bonus
$5 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

KING OF FIGHTERS XIII(PS3) + $100
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

TEKKEN TAG TOURNAMENT 2 (PS3) $200
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

BLAZBLUE: CHRONO PHANTASMA (PS3) $100
$10 Entry
2 out of 3 games per match
2 out of 3 games per semi final match
2 out of 3 games per grand finals

KILLER INSTINCT (XB1) + Microsoft Prize
$10 Entry
2 out of 3 games per match
2 out of 3 games per semi final match
2 out of 3 games per grand finals

PERSONA 4 (PS3) + $100
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals
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SIDE GAMES:

Note: If you are just playing 1 (ONE SIDE GAME), the venue fee is $20. If you play 2 or more side games, the venue fee is $35.

KING OF FIGHTERS 98 UMFE (PC)
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

VIRTUA FIGHTER 5 (PS3) + Sega Prize
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

DOA 5: ULTIMATE (PS3) + $100
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

SUPER TURBO (Arcade)
$10
Double elimination tournament
3 out of 5 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

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TORYUKEN 4 SCHEDULE:

DOORS OPENS @ 10:00a

–CAPCOM GAMES–

FRIDAY
7:00p-9:00p - SSFIV AE Teams to Top 2 Teams
8:00p-10:00p - UMvC3 Teams to Top 2 Teams

SATURDAY
11:00a-4:00p - SSFIV AE Singles to Top 16
2:00p-6:00p - UMvC3 Singles to Top 16
6:00p-8:00p - SSFIV AE Singles Top 16 to Top 8
8:00p-10:00p - UMvC3 Singles Top 16 to Top 8

SUNDAY
6:00p-8:00p - SSFIV AE Top 8
8:00p-10:00p - UMvC3 Top 8

-NONCAPCOM GAMES-

SATURDAY
12:00p – KOF to finish
2:00p – MKX To Top 8, TTT2 to Top 3, GG to Top 8
3:00p – BBCP, P4 to finish
4:00p – KI, Injustice

SUNDAY
2:00p-4:00p - VF, DOA5U, Super Turbo, KOF98
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STREAM:

Stream will be provided by TTT.
-Stream 1- www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers
-Stream 2- www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers2
__________________
STREAM SCHEDULE:

Note: Subject to changes
======== This is the STREAM SCHEDULE, Do not confuse this with ACTUAL TOURNAMENT SCHEDULE ABOVE. This is stream schedule only. ========

-FRIDAY STREAM-
7:00p-9:00p – SSFIV Teams to finish
8:00p-11:00p – UMvC3 Teams to finish

-SATURDAY STREAM 1-
11:00a-3:00p – SSFIV Singles
3:00p-6:00p – UMvC3 Singles
6:00p-8:00p – SSFIV AE Singles Top 16 to Top 8
8:00p-10:00p – UMvC3 Singles Top 16 to Top 8

-SATURDAY STREAM 2-
12:00p-2:00p – King Of Fighters XIII Singles to Top 3
2:00p-4:00p – Mortal Kombat X to Top 8
4:00p-6:00p – Injustice Singles to Top 8
6:00p-10:00p – GGxrd, BBCP and P4 finishes

-SUNDAY STREAM 1-
11:00a-12:00p – King Of Fighters Top 3
12:00p-1:00p – TTT2 Top 3
1:00p-3:00p - GG Top 8
3:00p-5:00p – MK Top 8
5:00p-7:00p – UMvC3 Top 8
7:00p-9:00p – SSFIV Top 8

-SUNDAY STREAM 2-
12:00p-3:00p – Super Turbp
2:00p-5:00p – VF, DOA5U

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CAPCOM POOL SCHEDULE:

Note: We will try finish the pools as fast as possible so please bare with us.
Note2: Brackets will be released a few days beforehand.

Super Street Fighter IV: 2012
11:00a-1:00p
Station 1, Station 2 - Pool 1
Station 3, Station 4 - Pool 2
Station 5, Station 6 - Pool 3
Station 7, Station 8 - Pool 4

1:00p-3:00p
Station 1, Station 2 - Pool 5
Station 3, Station 4 - Pool 6
Station 5, Station 6 - Pool 7
Station 7, Station 8 - Pool 8

Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
2:00p-4:00p
Station 1, Station 2 - Pool A
Station 3, Station 4 - Pool B
Station 5, Station 6 - Pool C
Station 7, Station 8 - Pool D

4:00-6:00p
Station 1, Station 2 - Pool E
Station 3, Station 4 - Pool F
Station 5, Station 6 - Pool G
Station 7, Station 8 - Pool H
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Players who reach Winners Final and Losers Final of their bracket moves on to Top 16. Top 16 players of SSFIV and UMvC3 will be played on Saturday @ 6p. Pools will be posted by the Entrance and will run on a 2 hour basis. This means that you could be in the last pool if you are lucky enough. Please do not hold up the bracket. Disqualify hammer in full effect. I'm pretty sure there will be things that may delay a bracket that is out of our hands. We do ask for your patience while we try to finish brackets as we scheduled.

__________________
PRIZE DISTRIBUTION:

All tournaments will have the following pot split:
Singles
1st Place - 70%
2nd Place - 20%
3rd Place - 10%

There will be prizes for winners from our Sponsors as well.
____________________________________
BRING YOUR OWN STICKS/CONTROLLERS:

The console equipment will be labeled and registered to ensure its safety. However, please be careful with your sticks. Furthermore, if you know you're attending and you do not have a stick to use, make sure you have a friend who can donate. All singles matches will enforce a 5 minute rule and if you can't find a stick within that time you will be disqualified. This is advance warning and will not be brought up again.
________________________
BROKEN STICKS/BUTTONS:

If you have any stick/button problems at anytime, STOP PLAYING, get up and inform the director. The stick will be fixed/changed and the match will be replayed. If you decide to whine about the sticks after the match, YOU WILL NOT GET A REPLAY MATCH.

______________
EVENT RAFFLE:

TorontoTopTiers.com will hold a raffle for prizes. Thanks to our Sponsors for helping out with the
Prize List Price:
$2 - 1 raffle ticket
$5 - 3 raffle tickets
$10 - 10 raffle

Tickets It is ideal to purchase more raffle tickets to increase your chances. Lots of good prizes this time around.

___________
DONATIONS:

You do not have to be an Official Sponsor to help out. If you would like to help by donating, please contact [email protected]. You will get free Swag for helping.

_______________
If you have any questions, feel free to contact [email protected]. If you are coming from out of town, please let us know. We want to make sure everybody is accommodated.
 

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I really want to do teams too. I never got to do it in INJ :(
team tournaments are so much fun. since theyre first to 1's anything can happen. SF and Marvel love them so much and always suppport, weve tried to do team tournaments at 3 different majors for injustice and it doesnt happen. I think the most successful team tournaemnt we did was at final round, and it took so much time to put together and actually do. it was 5 teams of 5, or maybe 6 teams of 5.
 
I think variations as different fighting style. Since their moves and properties will change, they are considered new characters.

Tournament Match
-Both players pick fighting style they choose.
-Player 1 wins.
-Player 1 stays with his current fighting style.
-Player 2 can switch character or just style.

With how we do UMvC3 tournaments, if you win, you cannot change your team order or change their assists (variations). You stick with what you win with the order they were chosen.

Hope that's fair and will cause less confusion this way.

NeoRussell
 

Shady

Noob
Run them jewels. I agree on variations, they got introduced to level out match-ups and make adjustments that much more fun, but yeah, you should only be able to switch yours if you lose. Hollywood Cassie for the win tho.
 

HoneyBee

Flash God Lord
I think variations as different fighting style. Since their moves and properties will change, they are considered new characters.

Tournament Match
-Both players pick fighting style they choose.
-Player 1 wins.
-Player 1 stays with his current fighting style.
-Player 2 can switch character or just style.

With how we do UMvC3 tournaments, if you win, you cannot change your team order or change their assists (variations). You stick with what you win with the order they were chosen.

Hope that's fair and will cause less confusion this way.

NeoRussell
That's actually a really good point.
 

EdFig81

Original OBS mbr/VSM/G4S
TORYUKEN 4: Stronghold

Calling all FGC of Canada. Gather around on Victoria day weekend and bring forth your skills in Fighting Games. We are to be invaded yet again by surrounding countries. If foreign players want to come and disturb our peace, let them come. Join the battle and Protect The North.

--
With regards to the discussion about MKX testers being banned, TORYUKEN will not ban them from entering the tournament. The fairness factor definitely takes into account here because there is a slight advantage regardless if people see it or not. I'm not gonna argue, I am just gonna listen to Canadian community. They want american mk blood and we don't care whether they created, tested, designed or even had the game for a long time. We will take this as a challenge and make sure you send Americans back cying. So bring it. We will be ready to protect our north.

_______
TRAILERS:

Coming soon…

_________
FACEBOOK PAGE:

https://www.facebook.com/events/893675634015908/

Invite friends and post up once you Pre-Registered. Let people know that you are coming to cause havoc.

_____
DATE:

May 15th – Capcom Team Tournament
May 16th – Singles Tournament
May 17th – Finals Day

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LOCATION:

Holiday Inn Yorkdale
http://www.hiyorkdale.com/

3450 Dufferin St.
Toronto, ON M6A 2V1
Phone: 416-789-5161

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DIRECTIONS:

Check out the hotels link for directions on how to get to the venue:
http://www.hiyorkdale.com/contact/

There are two ways to get there via TTC:
-Dufferin Station Bus going North stops directly in front of the Hotel.
-Yorkdale Subway Station gets you to Yorkdale Mall so you have to walk a bit to get to the hotel.

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VENUE FEES:

$35 – Official Game Registration (USF4, UMvC3, GGxrd, KI, MKX, INJ, BB, KOFXIII, TTT2)
$20 – Side Games Registration Only (P4, VF, KOF98UMFE, ST, DOA)

Note: If you are just playing 1 (ONE SIDE GAME), the venue fee is $20. If you play 2 or more side games, the venue fee is $35.

____
To make sure everything runs on schedule accordingly, we will only be doing ONLINE REGISTRATIONS. There will be NO DOOR REGISTRATIONS for the official games. Do not miss the cut off dates for the TORYUKEN 4. We will not accept late registrations.

________________
PRE-REGISTRATION:

There are two ways to Register for TORYUKEN 4:

1) Online Pre-Registration is located http://preregister.toryuken.com.
2) You can catch me (Russell) in TTT x A&C World Casuals if you want to pay by CASH.

_______________
SPECTATOR FEES:

$10 Per Day – Doesn’t matter if it’s Saturday or Sunday, you will get a wristband to show you are a spectator. SPECTATORS CANNOT COMPETE IN ANY OFFICIAL TOURNAMENTS

_____________
OFFICIAL GAMES:

ULTRA STREET FIGHTER IV (360)
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

ULTIMATE MARVEL VS CAPCOM 3 (360)
Double elimination tournament
3 out of 5 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

ULTRA STREET FIGHTER IV TEAMS (360)
$10 per team
2v2 Team Tournament
Pokemon Style

ULTIMATE MARVEL vs CAPCOM 3 TEAMS(360)
$10 per team
2v2 Team Tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
2 out of 3 games per semi final match
2 out of 3 games per grand finals

INJUSTICE: GOD’S AMONG US (PS3)
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
3 out of 5 games per match
All Characters Allowed

MORTAL KOMBAT X (PS4)
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
3 out of 5 games per match

GUILTY GEAR Xrd (PS3)
$5 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

KING OF FIGHTERS XIII(PS3)
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

TEKKEN TAG TOURNAMENT 2 (PS3)
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

BLAZBLUE: CHRONO PHANTASMA (PS3)
$10 Entry
2 out of 3 games per match
2 out of 3 games per semi final match
2 out of 3 games per grand finals

KILLER INSTINCT (XB1)
$10 Entry
2 out of 3 games per match
2 out of 3 games per semi final match
2 out of 3 games per grand finals

PERSONA 4 (PS3)
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

__________
SIDE GAMES:

Note: If you are just playing 1 (ONE SIDE GAME), the venue fee is $20. If you play 2 or more side games, the venue fee is $35.

KING OF FIGHTERS 98 UMFE (PC)
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

VIRTUA FIGHTER 5 (PS3)
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

DOA 5: ULTIMATE (PS3)
$10 entry
Double elimination tournament
2 out of 3 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

SUPER TURBO (Arcade)
$10 Entry
Double elimination tournament
3 out of 5 games per match
3 out of 5 games per semi final match
3 out of 5 games grand finals

___________________
TORYUKEN 4 SCHEDULE:

DOORS OPENS @ 10:00a

–CAPCOM GAMES–

FRIDAY
7:00p-9:00p – SSFIV AE Teams to Top 2 Teams
8:00p-10:00p – UMvC3 Teams to Top 2 Teams

SATURDAY
11:00a-4:00p – SSFIV AE Singles to Top 16
2:00p-6:00p – UMvC3 Singles to Top 16
6:00p-8:00p – SSFIV AE Singles Top 16 to Top 8
8:00p-10:00p – UMvC3 Singles Top 16 to Top 8

SUNDAY
6:00p-8:00p – SSFIV AE Top 8
8:00p-10:00p – UMvC3 Top 8

-NONCAPCOM GAMES-

SATURDAY
12:00p – KOF to finish
2:00p – MKX To Top 8, TTT2 to Top 3, GG to Top 8
3:00p – BBCP, P4 to finish
4:00p – KI, Injustice

SUNDAY
2:00p-4:00p – VF, DOA5U, Super Turbo, KOF98

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STREAM:

Stream will be provided by our very own TTT_Kellfire and TTT_Mortified.
-Stream 1- www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers
-Stream 2- www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers2

__________________
STREAM SCHEDULE:

Note: Subject to changes

======== This is the STREAM SCHEDULE, Do not confuse this with ACTUAL TOURNAMENT SCHEDULE ABOVE. This is stream schedule only. ========

-FRIDAY STREAM-

7:00p-9:00p – SSFIV Teams to finish
8:00p-11:00p – UMvC3 Teams to finish

-SATURDAY STREAM 1-
11:00a-3:00p – SSFIV Singles
3:00p-6:00p – UMvC3 Singles
6:00p-8:00p – SSFIV AE Singles Top 16 to Top 8
8:00p-10:00p – UMvC3 Singles Top 16 to Top 8

-SATURDAY STREAM 2-
12:00p-2:00p – King Of Fighters XIII Singles to Top 3
2:00p-4:00p – Mortal Kombat X to Top 8
4:00p-6:00p – Injustice Singles to Top 8
6:00p-10:00p – GGxrd, BBCP and P4 finishes

-SUNDAY STREAM 1-
11:00a-12:00p – King Of Fighters Top 3
12:00p-1:00p – TTT2 Top 3
1:00p-3:00p – GG Top 8
3:00p-5:00p – MK Top 8
5:00p-7:00p – UMvC3 Top 8
7:00p-9:00p – SSFIV Top 8

-SUNDAY STREAM 2-
12:00p-3:00p – Super Turbp
2:00p-5:00p – VF, DOA5U

______________________
CAPCOM POOL SCHEDULE:

Note: We will try finish the pools as fast as possible so please bare with us.
Note2: Brackets will be released a few days beforehand.

Super Street Fighter IV: 2012
11:00a-1:00p
Station 1, Station 2 – Pool 1
Station 3, Station 4 – Pool 2
Station 5, Station 6 – Pool 3
Station 7, Station 8 – Pool 4

1:00p-3:00p
Station 1, Station 2 – Pool 5
Station 3, Station 4 – Pool 6
Station 5, Station 6 – Pool 7
Station 7, Station 8 – Pool 8

Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
2:00p-4:00p
Station 1, Station 2 – Pool A
Station 3, Station 4 – Pool B
Station 5, Station 6 – Pool C
Station 7, Station 8 – Pool D

4:00-6:00p
Station 1, Station 2 – Pool E
Station 3, Station 4 – Pool F
Station 5, Station 6 – Pool G
Station 7, Station 8 – Pool H

____
Players who reach Winners Final and Losers Final of their bracket moves on to Top 16. Top 16 players of SSFIV and UMvC3 will be played on Saturday @ 6p. Pools will be posted by the Entrance and will run on a 2 hour basis. This means that you could be in the last pool if you are lucky enough. Please do not hold up the bracket. Disqualify hammer in full effect. I’m pretty sure there will be things that may delay a bracket that is out of our hands. We do ask for your patience while we try to finish brackets as we scheduled.

__________________
PRIZE DISTRIBUTION:

All tournaments will have the following pot split:

Singles
1st Place – 70%
2nd Place – 20%
3rd Place – 10%

There will be prizes for winners from our Sponsors as well.

____________________________________
BRING YOUR OWN STICKS/CONTROLLERS:

The console equipment will be labeled and registered to ensure its safety. However, please be careful with your sticks. Furthermore, if you know you’re attending and you do not have a stick to use, make sure you have a friend who can donate. All singles matches will enforce a 5 minute rule and if you can’t find a stick within that time you will be disqualified. This is advance warning and will not be brought up again.

________________________
BROKEN STICKS/BUTTONS:

If you have any stick/button problems at anytime, STOP PLAYING, get up and inform the director. The stick will be fixed/changed and the match will be replayed. If you decide to whine about the sticks after the match, YOU WILL NOT GET A REPLAY MATCH.

______________
EVENT RAFFLE:

TorontoTopTiers.com will hold a raffle for prizes. Thanks to our Sponsors for helping out with the

Prize List Price:
$2 – 1 raffle ticket
$5 – 3 raffle tickets
$10 – 10 raffle

Tickets It is ideal to purchase more raffle tickets to increase your chances. Lots of good prizes this time around.

___________
DONATIONS:

You do not have to be an Official Sponsor to help out. If you would like to help by donating, please contact [email protected]. You will get free Swag for helping.

_______________
If you have any questions, feel free to contact [email protected]. If you are coming from out of town, please let us know. We want to make sure everybody is accommodated.
Hey neo last yr i contributed to the pot for injustice via obs fgc donor. If I get my tax return soon (which I can't promise as i have dependents now and irs is being bad) I may contribute a 100 towards mkx. This is not a guarantee as i don't know my financial situation until next month. I will dm u or if u can follow me on Twitter as @Edfig81 so if I can do it i can dm u.

Good luck on your event as i enjoyed it as a stream monster last yr and wish I could be there but due to family issues I am stuck in nyc sadly. I will dm u on twitter or tym if I can drop.something small to the pot.

Again good luck and lata.
 

Ecodus

I ain't got time to bleed.
Hope this isn't taken as a troll.

Are stages going to be double random?

How are you handling player seeding?
 
Player seeding will be based on upcoming tournaments leading up to TORYUKEN. Of course if there is a name that comes out, we will accommodate them too. I know brackets have been an issue in the past but there will be a few community leaders that will check before we post it.

As for stages, first is random, 2nd: loser chooses. Until we have the actual game and how it works, that's how we will decide. Same as MK9 rules about stages. Not Injustice stage rules which was so complicated.

@Edfig81 Of course I remember. I appreciate any help. You definitely do not have to but great appreciated.

Thanks,
NeoRussell
 
Player seeding will be based on upcoming tournaments leading up to TORYUKEN. Of course if there is a name that comes out, we will accommodate them too. I know brackets have been an issue in the past but there will be a few community leaders that will check before we post it.

As for stages, first is random, 2nd: loser chooses. Until we have the actual game and how it works, that's how we will decide. Same as MK9 rules about stages. Not Injustice stage rules which was so complicated.

@Edfig81 Of course I remember. I appreciate any help. You definitely do not have to but great appreciated.

Thanks,
NeoRussell
What was complicated about Random stage every time? In a game where stages actually make a big difference (not just the animals in the background or how far the corners are) I think you need to consider how powerful the choice of stages can be. No one should be allowed to select a stage that benefits their character. Thats like being astaroth in soul calibur and being able to pick the smallest stage for an easy win just to tie up the set or keep the lead with easy ring outs. This is why SC has always done random stage starts, loser can opt to pick ANOTHER random stage or stay on the same stage with same character.

This is also how we avoid situations like this where perfect legend just threw drones at deg at CEO, it was so sad that he was able to choose the stage, sealing deg's fate the moment he lost the first match, not when he truly should have lost.

@5:20 PL gets the option to go to doomsday (a power character) AND select a stage with broken drones that ONLY power characters had access too. Even though he was hit with only 3 drones, the THREAT of drones force deg to play a very upclose game to retain control, which is where doomsday strives most.


TLDR; in a game where stages matter, players should not have the option to select stage.
drones on rooftops were broken
PL does what it takes to win.
 

Ecodus

I ain't got time to bleed.
What was complicated about Random stage every time? In a game where stages actually make a big difference (not just the animals in the background or how far the corners are) I think you need to consider how powerful the choice of stages can be. No one should be allowed to select a stage that benefits their character. Thats like being astaroth in soul calibur and being able to pick the smallest stage for an easy win just to tie up the set or keep the lead with easy ring outs. This is why SC has always done random stage starts, loser can opt to pick ANOTHER random stage or stay on the same stage with same character.

This is also how we avoid situations like this where perfect legend just threw drones at deg at CEO, it was so sad that he was able to choose the stage, sealing deg's fate the moment he lost the first match, not when he truly should have lost.

@5:20 PL gets the option to go to doomsday (a power character) AND select a stage with broken drones that ONLY power characters had access too. Even though he was hit with only 3 drones, the THREAT of drones force deg to play a very upclose game to retain control, which is where doomsday strives most.


TLDR; in a game where stages matter, players should not have the option to select stage.
drones on rooftops were broken
PL does what it takes to win.
I agree with this 100%. Although blockable interactables might mean less of a big deal, I am a huge advocate of double random stage picking.

Arma, are you going to Toryuken?
 
I agree with this 100%. Although blockable interactables might mean less of a big deal, I am a huge advocate of double random stage picking.

Arma, are you going to Toryuken?
Ok, but there are stages equipped with more interactables that get you out of the corner, or what if interactables are plus on block? or have armor? just because theyre blockable doesnt mean they CANT be great. Lets say youre a character that HATES getting put in the corner, you would ALWAYS pick the stage that give you the EXTRA option of using the interactable to regain some breathing room. I don't see it as fair.

Am I going to Toronto?

Lets just say....my passport is in the mail

....So I could go to VXG


Da BEEECH Also yes im going, thats why I used the scott pilgrim gif
 

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I ain't got time to bleed.
Ok, but there are stages equipped with more interactables that get you out of the corner, or what if interactables are plus on block? or have armor? just because theyre blockable doesnt mean they CANT be great. Lets say youre a character that HATES getting put in the corner, you would ALWAYS pick the stage that give you the EXTRA option of using the interactable to regain some breathing room. I don't see it as fair.

Am I going to Toronto?

Lets just say....my passport is in the mail

....So I could go to VXG


Da BEEECH Also yes im going, thats why I used the scott pilgrim gif
I agreed with you about the stages lol.

Sweet, if we play, I'll be stage counter picking you.