Strategy - Erron Black Sage Talks About: F2

[Sage Leviathan]

If you can't watch the video, all I say is that f2 is a good mid.
Combos shown in the video are here. (Pretend they're orange.)

Midscreen meterless: f24, d3~Tackle/Slide
Midscreen 1 bar: f24~EXMid Sand Grenade, 21122~Tackle
Corner: f24, d1, 11, 21122~Tackle

F24 is -2. F242 is -7 and leaves you at jump distance. F24 jails into EXSG.

Why not use f3? F3 is -5 and also jails into EXSG.
Well, here's why. F2 has the same (if not microscopically superior) range, f24 does more chip, is hit-confirmable, and launches in the corner.

Food for thought.

 

[CrazyFingers]

Oh hey look, logic.

 

[omooba]

i honestly haven't seen a single erron black post patch. would love to have a set with you man

 

[WettyFapMan]

d4 tackle instead of d3 for tiny bit more damage. Could also slide for position change

 

[YoloRoll1stHit]

I think F2 is not considered good because too many characters can lowprofile it

 

[CrazyFingers]

But ya know, Erron has no mids.

 

[CrazyFingers]

I think F2 is not considered good because too many characters can lowprofile it

There are some characters that can sure but a mid is a mid. I would kill for a mid with that range.

 

[The Farmer]

F2 is often my match starter. I use f2 coin/exsg etc as a nice meaty on hkd. F2 gun cancel in marksman is decent as people don't really expect you canceling out it. Nice vid @Sage Leviathan!

 

[The Farmer]

I think if you take out the 4 and just do f2 exsg then f2 db4 run cancel 21122 sand tackle it's roughly 35 percent. I'm just spit balling here, I need to test it.

 

[Addhad]

Ppl should really take more advantage of f24 its sooo good in the corner and ppl like to jump out a lot after it so you can njp... They block the njp? Well it's plus bc this is mkx ur turn now

 

[Sage Leviathan]

I found a new combo after f24 in the corner.
f24, d1~Glass, b33~SOS2, b33~Tackle. 31%.

I think if you take out the 4 and just do f2 exsg then f2 db4 run cancel 21122 sand tackle it's roughly 35 percent. I'm just spit balling here, I need to test it.

f2~EXSG jails. Does 37% :]

 

[The Farmer]

I found a new combo after f24 in the corner.
f24, d1~Glass, b33~SOS2, b33~Tackle. 31%.


f2~EXSG jails. Does 37% :]

We in there

 

[CrazyFingers]

Gunslinger has some really good footsie tools. I'm glad he lost his "mash out 50/50" section of his game plan. Makes him so much more satisfying to win with imo.

 

[Vigilante24]

Thanks Sage for shedding a little bit of light on this character! As I know about 95% of Erron Black players nowadays are Gunslinger only players and im probably one of few that still prefers Marksman over it (I play Gunslinger for MUs only), I wanted to show what F2 can do for Marksman as well as a couple other universal utilities for it.

Extra Notes Not Shown in this Video:
- After a Command Grab ender, F2 can stuff all of Lao's spin wakeups except for Tempest EX Spin.
- F2 cannot stop Mileena's meterless Ball Roll after a Command Grab ender. Can only stuff it after a Slide ender.
- F2 cannot stop Predator's EX Lasers after a Command Grab ender. Can only stuff it after a Slide ender.
- F2 after a D1 on hit is capable of stuffing low profiling pokes. Tested on Mileena's D3.
- F2 and F24 are great counterpokes to D4s, especially characters that like to mash afterwards on block like Scorpion, SZ, D'Bitchah, Kung Lao, and Johnny. If they mash, they will get hit for full combo.
- F2 can stuff Cassie meterless Flip wakeup.

 

[CaptainCM]

- F2 after a D1 on hit is capable of stuffing low profiling pokes. Tested on Mileena's D3.

D1 on hit jails into 21122. There are no benefits to using F2 in this situation.

Regarding combos off of f24~EX bf3: if you have stamina, you can add s1 or b1 (also adds 1% damage) after the sand grenade for 100% consistency on 21122. You can get f24~21122 for a bit better corner carry, but the timing is quite strict and the damage is the same.

 

[Vigilante24]

D1 on hit jails into 21122. There are no benefits to using F2 in this situation.

In a situation where your opponent keeps mashing and the connection is ass, yes this is benificial.

 

[Strange Symptoms]

Thanks Sage for shedding a little bit of light on this character! As I know about 95% of Erron Black players nowadays are Gunslinger only players and im probably one of few that still prefers Marksman over it (I play Gunslinger for MUs only), I wanted to show what F2 can do for Marksman as well as a couple other universal utilities for it.

I use to play only Marksman. Because of the stamina changes I mostly play only Gunslinger now.
If you're US, would you like to play a bit? My internet is not the best, but hopefully it'll be serviceable.