well alien already did get nerfed.....i don't know the MU myself, but i doubt ill be able to learn it anytime soon because recent update for some reason my connection feels even worse, and a lot of my messages don't always go through...soo all i can really say is learn how the character works, bait him to make mistakes, punish accordingly, take in everything you can to make reads against the player themselves as well.
I don't understand what the difference is with his acid and any other sort of projectile or move. The acid DoT does let's say 5%? Many other projectiles or special moves do much more than this and would deal the whole 5% (almost) immediately if it did 5%, while Acid's is just a lot slower over time. I consider getting hit with Alien's acid much like getting hit by multiple projectiles/multiple moves. But because the DoT keeps going slowly and 'bleeds' into new combos instead of dealing all of its damage immediately, everyone panics.
Acid Blood dot is 10% if they're in the puddle the whole time. It does 12% total with 2% initial damage and 1% self damage to alien.
Exo sting does a total of 8% so thats not really op in any way shape or form. Acid blood only does 12% if they remain in the puddle the entire time which is highly unlikely, realistically in match combos you probably get the initial 2% + maybe half of the dot so like 7%? How is this even unfair?
his meterless overhead flip should remain -7 like it is, just like reptiles flip, just like takeda's flip....
Alien's is a lot faster though. Often times you can react to Reptile's and Takeda's flip pretty well, while Alien's isn't really reactable at 18 frames. As such it gives him great mixup opportunities.
Yes it's stackable, but any dot from u3/d4 will be scaled. The initial damage is always scaled in combos. So lets say for example you do his vortex. B11u4, b11u4, f23~ex crawl, f23~acid blood. That does 33%, that total includes the initial damage of acid blood (2%) and 1% of the dot, leaving anywhere from 1-9% additional dot depending on how long they remain in the puddle. Lets say you follow that with b11~acid blood and it hits. That only will do an additional 8% plus anywhere from 1-9% again. Any follow up after acid blood usually removes them from the pool causing less damage. If you lose a guess in a vortex against anyone else you will take a lot more than that.
Which is exactly what you just did by saying Mileena has 0 bad MUs.
Are you sure that is correct, as I do not think it is. DoT damage is not scaled I do not think and it dose the same damage on block as it dose on hit. You can easily do a 28% combo in the corner that takes over 50% life, using 2 puddles and tail hits. Still even on block the damage is crazy. So say Kung Lau dose his block pressure in the courner you take small damage, but with Alien you take crazy damage. Kind of like caltrops, but imagine you could put 2 sets of them down instead of one. And of course there is the other acid adds as well.
I'm plenty chill.. this is a discussion forum is it not?Never said it was "unfair" or "op" only said the ish is ridiculous. Just suggesting a bit of a decrease in Acid's damage scaling. Chill mate.
phuck it, nerf them too.
the thread is titled "acidic is OP" and you responded "i labbed him today and he is ridiculous he needs nerfs"Never said it was "unfair" or "op" only said the ish is ridiculous. Just suggesting a bit of a decrease in Acid's damage scaling. Chill mate.
phuck it, nerf them too.
I thought I said in combos. Sorry. Dot is not scaled but u3/d1 suffer scaling if used in combos. Both the initial damage and dot. There's a more detailed section containing all of the damage info in the acidic guide.
Thats just too much. We might as well make all of the good specials In MKX deal self damage. Maybe lao's hat could fly off during spin so you cant use it for the round. Why is everyone so eager to nerf and kill alien rather than learning how to deal with him? I agree with maybe making the stack damage less, maybe instead of .5 ticks on the 2nd acid blood maybe doing .3 but I really don't think we need to completely kill another one of his varations yet. Most of his strings are either really slow, unsafe, or both. He does have a relatively hard time dealing with zoning and he isnt too great against pressure characters. Instead of asking for a nerf look at his weaknesses and find a way to exploit them.
