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I don't think Sub-Zero is overpowered, I think he's braindead, sometimes people tend to confuse the two, especially people who main a braindead character that still want some modicum of recognition for being a 'decent player.'

Use it and lose it sure. X-Rays and fatal blows have always bothered me though because when comparing them to other large comeback mechanics in FGs (Mainly Ultras in SF4 and CA in SF5) They aren't very punishable depending and they also happen instantaneously. (Also they're 2 buttons wtf...

Hat Trick and Lotus Fist offer different things. I think Hat Tricks works a bit better for a more zoning oriented/cautious spacing mixup game. (I haven't messed wit Hat Tricks too much but that's just at a glance; that and throw setups.) My problem with it is that even though EX hat is plus...

I'm going to tear people a new asshole with Lao.

You connect it with another f1 The timing is strict though but very very doable with practice. What I do is f1, DB1 f1-df1 then do like 43 into EX spin etc. Edit: I mean you convert off of db1 with another f1.)

Looks at a tournament level player who got 2nd place at a tournament playing Sub Zero and calls him terrible. Uh okay. Maybe when you guys get your buffs you can almost take a round off of him!

I meant it more in a like, TYM kind of way but yeah I feel you. I'm hitting 30 this year. :C NRS community in general though seems to have alot more older players though which is a good thing imo.

Damn son, MKA? You're an oldo.

I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on SK and I'm also always open to being wrong. But this game feels more in lieu with cautious approaches to neutral than any other MK game and I don't see not having alot of plus frame mids or alot of highs as being a detriment. Characters like Erron...

Again, his normal frames don't equate his normals being good or bad, if they had good frame advantage, then sure but why the hell would you be standing next to someone pressuring hard anyways when you got a long ass hammer. Shao should be played as a whiff punisher.

Maybe when I start losing. I can agree that Erron Black is some bullshit, but he's going to get inevitable nerfs. The game is going to evolve slowly but I don't think the answer is to just start throwing buffs out to everyone. The problem is that most of the characters in this game are forced...

I hit confirm off of single hits all the time, it's called playing a fighting game. I have to hit off of orbital hat quite alot with Kung Lao and I'm not sitting here bitching about it.

Alot of characters in this game lack reliable safe mid strings and overheads etc. People just don't know how to make a character work for them, all they want is free pressure constantly or stupid 50/50s. Shao Khan has great range with decent speed on his normals relative for their range for...

I mean all I'm saying is there is someone bodying decent players with the 'worst character in the game' while people here who couldn't even hold a candle to this sub player even if they were maining Erron Black are crying for Shao Khan buffs a week in. It's pretty silly.

You guys are a bunch of whiners.

Can we get some hat trick videos? I've been having alot of success with Lotus Fist but I want to see some of you guys playing Hat Trick for some inspiration.

I mean hey, I'm all for being proved wrong. Would love to see hat trick being viable.

I'll take it for its use, I've won alot of games because of orbital hat. I can't say the same for Z hat.

Okay but orbiting hat leads to over 40% midscreen combos and it costs 1 meter. If you burn Z hat, you're still spending one meter and you your combo damage is ass even if it hits. On top of that, Orbiting hat is still safe on block. So what do we get out of z-hat, we get a projectile that is...

Z Hat is -8 on block. Where the hell are you getting +20 lmao. Wtf are you even talking about; and why is air teleport better than regular teleport? So you can give them even more time to react to it?