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This is exactly why I barely frequent this site and turned down becoming a moderator.

Don't worry Cossner, I didn't get tagged either lol

Hes talking about the ability to use EX invis to extend combos. @Derptile This thread wasn't about being excited that a tool got better...The poll is "How Broken is this" as if it was some new discovery that NRS used to Buff Reptile into everyones "sacred" top 5 tier lists and essentially...

Yes you could.... It was used to full combo punish holes in strings and counter pokes, now that it recovers faster it can punish more.

This isn't new, deceptive always had this, it's the main reason deceptive mains considered him to be good. Stop with the crying This is what pisses me off. People are going to "discover" shit he already had. That was literally the only thing deceptive mains held as to why they thought he was...

No this is 30%, only way to get 34% meterless is f412 > dash > NJP > f41 > f412 slide

Best 1 Bar ex invis mid combo is f412 > dash > NJP > f41 EX invis > f412 slide 33%. His main bnb with ex invis is 37% with f41 ex invis dash > NJP > f41 > f412 slide

Yes lol and it actually does hit mid point blank.

Only one I can think of is maybe with 34 because 34 ex invis on hit allows you to do a JIP and still combo.

Yea its definitely viable, especially if you're going for the kill. 2 bar in the corner ranges in the mid 40s as well

Seriously, thank you NRS. This character is perfect now. @colt

There isn't enough cancel advantage to do 34 but f41 ex invis- f41 ex invis- f412-NJP- f41- f412 slide does 43%

Oh I'm not saying its something I'd use it would be a waste of meter just seems odd it doesn't come out.

THere is one glitch though with Deceptive or maybe its intentional? @colt When you start a combo with EX invis if you ever try to do the MB f21 grab, the MB will never come out.

Man why you always hating on Noxious lol. Acid puddle with noxious is now going to be nasty plus having safe specials for extra DOT string damage.

No it didn't. I'm saying that your setup has been a basic reptile setup in almost every game previously until this one.

Ex slide might be able to punish it but I'm pretty sure regular slide can't.

Its almost hilarious to think that this was up until this point not a viable setup lol.. A setup hes practically had since creation lol

Extremely noticeable. Its amazing how just 4 frames of recovery changed this character. He can now end combos into forceball without having to worry about being punished. IE You can do f412 dash 21 f412 slowball and its now safe and you can also now stop the slow ball right in front of you, so...

Love how a lot of my suggestions ended up making it after the last 2 patches. Faster poke with d3 7 frames Klaw is now safe and Pounce is the safe OH allowing for some more mixup potential / meter building BOTH EX versions are full combo punishable. EX invis leads to frametraps / more combo...