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Geoffmeister

Geoffmeister

PS4/EU Ermac main
GGA pimpimjim said:
what are these MoS midscreen and corner combos that are supposedly 5-10% more? and from what starter
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There's so many starters...

MoS (meterless)
Raw Soul Ball is 36%
Midscreen mixup is 38-40%
Wall mixup is 43-45%
F21D2 Wall is 47%


Mystic (meterless)
Raw lift is 29%
Midscreen mixup is 32-35%
Wall mixup is 33-35%
F21D2 Wall is 41%

Adding a bar for combo extender in all variations usually amounts to roughly 6% extra damage
 
Geoffmeister

Geoffmeister

PS4/EU Ermac main
GGA pimpimjim said:
midscreen meterless mixup for mystic is 38-40% also
for example f4~tele b12 f21d2 4~lift NJP 4~push 40%
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How consistent do you hit that b12 after teleport?
I can say MoS does 43% meterless, personally, the execution becomes a factor (especially in tournaments, you don't want to drop a combo you just risked yourself getting punished for).. No one does f4-tp-d1-f4-Sball, even though it nets you 3% more.

edit: nvm this is new :eek:
 
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PPJ

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NetherRealm Studios
should be very doable now. an ermac main that practices the link should have like 80% success rate in tournament
 
DarksydeDash

DarksydeDash

You know me as RisingShieldBro online.
The new bf2 is insanely good and gives ermac safe armor. I think new bnbs need to be found in the variant before we see more play though
 
zaf

zaf

professor
@Undeadmatrix4

Hey dude. Should have asked this question in the Beta changes thread!
There is a lot of discussion already on going there

So next time please search as well, to make sure the topic is not already being dicussed.

I will not lock or delete this thread, to preserve the discussion. I will simply merge this into the Beta ermac thread.

Thanks!

Pm me if you have any questions, do not direct questions at me in this thread to further keep this thread topic on ermac.
 
Metzos

Metzos

You will BOW to me!
What are the start-up frames on his b1? I read somewhere that, in beta, his b1 is alot faster.
 
zaf

zaf

professor
Metzos said:
What are the start-up frames on his b1? I read somewhere that, in beta, his b1 is alot faster.
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It shows as 11 start up right now. Which is what is actually is. So I am not entirely sure what the exact beta start up frames are..... I have not been able to test and find out doing jump tests, punishes or anything like that.
 
Geoffmeister

Geoffmeister

PS4/EU Ermac main
GGA pimpimjim said:
also non mystic specific but i'm assuming people know about the new b12 conversion after grounded tele right? or are ppl dumdums
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GGA pimpimjim said:
should be very doable now. an ermac main that practices the link should have like 80% success rate in tournament
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Metzos said:
What are the start-up frames on his b1? I read somewhere that, in beta, his b1 is alot faster.
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This wasn't a thing pre-patch.
A lot of his old combo's have been changed, Ermac MoS will be able to go into vortex meterless from now on...
THIS IS HUGE!

on a sidenote: is it changed to a high for real? or does it still hit some crouching/crouchblocking opponents?
 
P3irce

P3irce

Noob
omooba said:
have a lot of respect for honeybee but dude just cus a top player says the character is good doesn't mean they are. remember the abysmal tremor?
all i'm saying is he didn't get much and i really hate this patch cus they gave ferra/torr a lot fo unnecessary buffs and i'm pretty sure he's gonna get nerfed to hell soon
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How ironic to bring up temor being downplayed and then in reality being fantastic after saying that Ermac sucks. But aside from that Dave hasn't done anything tourney wise where as honeybee has won majors / placed top8 multiple times / is his job to play the game so id trust his judgement more so. Idk to each their own I'm sure we have more info in upcoming months
 
omooba

omooba

fear the moobs
P3irce said:
How ironic to bring up temor being downplayed and then in reality being fantastic after saying that Ermac sucks. But aside from that Dave hasn't done anything tourney wise where as honeybee has won majors / placed top8 multiple times / is his job to play the game so id trust his judgement more so. Idk to each their own I'm sure we have more info in upcoming months
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the point was about not trusting people just cus they place very well and honey bee hasn't placed well at a major since evo i believe. just saying. again i respect him just don't think ermac is good. again he didn't get much. if he had projectiles then yeah he's up there but not right now
 
P3irce

P3irce

Noob
omooba said:
the point was about not trusting people just cus they place very well and honey bee hasn't placed well at a major since evo i believe. just saying. again i respect him just don't think ermac is good. again he didn't get much. if he had projectiles then yeah he's up there but not right now
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Top 9 in Nec, top 13 in Kit, top 3 at Canada cup, top 3 at defend the north? Lol are you serious he's been killing it post Evo. Like I said though time will tell if he's good or not I just think calling him trash is a little silly right now
 
omooba

omooba

fear the moobs
P3irce said:
Top 9 in Nec, top 13 in Kit, top 3 at Canada cup, top 3 at defend the north? Lol are you serious he's been killing it post Evo. Like I said though time will tell if he's good or not I just think calling him trash is a little silly right now
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other than defend the north(which i missed) none where top 8 so i wouldn't know how he placed. and comparing this to how he was before evo (when he was almost always top 8) this is juts ok. didn't see canada cup either but stil definitely not killing it, just not as bad as i said. and he's trash lol. time will tell i guess
 
Ayyjayyy

Ayyjayyy

DevilApes
Wont the Spectral input change make it horrible fuzzy guarding Tremor for example. Since block down up gives you flight
 
zaf

zaf

professor
Ayyjayyy said:
Wont the Spectral input change make it horrible fuzzy guarding Tremor for example. Since block down up gives you flight
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Hasn't been a problem so far. The window to do it from the ground is strict it seems. I have yet to have it come out by accident and not want it.
 
R

Rydog J

Noob
I was just watching Reos streaming, yes F34 seems to have huge plus frames on block, to where you can repeat the move over and over and the opponent can only armor out of it. They can't even six frame d1 out of it. Looks pretty broke.
 
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