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Video The Science of MKX - Video Series from Mustard & Ketchup

Jynks

some heroes are born, some made, some wondrous
hasn't smajam done this exact video series already?

MKx System Series

Basic Char Breakdown
 

PND_Mustard

"More stealthful than the night"
Premium Supporter
I've never doubted you've had a hand in the content, it just seems like Ketchup is the one who's usually narrating.

Unrelated question for you. Way back when you did a ranked set with Lackey Ferra/Torr, have you tried out Ruthless since the last patch? PnG cancels made a huge difference.
I kinda stopped having fun with F/T, so I've not used them in a very long time.
 

Gesture Required Ahead

Get on that hook
This so fucking much!!! Just to give you guys the info on how to test. Set ai to always block and movement to jump. After whatever you are testing hold jump, and you can see how much advantage they have by how much sooner they jump before you.
More accurately, to test how punishable a move is on block have Reptile set on reversal EX Slide(6f), if you can block it, then it's at least -5 or safer, then if not, move to Kung Lao reversal EX Spin(7f) and so on and so forth.

Similarly, you can test how plus a move is depending on what you can do before a reversal comes out. Let's hypothetically say that Reptile's EX Swipe is +9 on block. If you could do EX Swipe then jail F4(9f), and a Reversal doesn't interrupt it, then it's at least +9. You can then move on to testing it with a slightly slower move and so on and so forth.

The most accurate way to test frame data is to have a 60fps recording equipment and see the frames yourself
 

Kamikaze_Highlander

PSN: Windude008
I kinda stopped having fun with F/T, so I've not used them in a very long time.
Ah that's a shame, been my main since day one and I've always had a blast (I just love the characters more than anything, Ferra is just so damn sweet), shutting down peoples set ups with Ferra or eating up an armoured wake up for 40+% punish is just delicious. I've got a guide posted in the F/T forums on how the PnG's work if that could change your mind(or just feedback in general from you guys would like, make my life *senpai noticed me*), there are some match ups I feel that heavily swing in their favour after 8/31 patch.
 

FrankOceansWaifu

Watch this set up.
Can you guys make a video dedicated to interactables? I really need to implement them in my game (especially for my Quan) but I'm interactable-challenged ;_; I can't use them consistently
 

STB Damashi

SmallBurntEarths
I wouldn't say being involved with probably about 70% of the overall content is rarely lol.
Mustard, there are approximately 150 videos of MKX content on the channel. Out of those 150, you are in about 65 of them (more or less). I'm just saying that you don't participate in commentary or individual videos. I'm pretty sure you are involved though. You are in ~43% of MKX videos, with only 17 of those videos being purely yours (~11%) without Ketchup in them (narrating and whatnot).

Shinnok Kotal Mimic Combos, Shinnok Impostor Mimic Set Ups, Ranked with Shinnok: Your Moves are Mine, Shinnok patch changes overview, Ranked with Shinnok: Buff City, Shinnok: How to punish Tricky Portal, Ranked with Ferra/Torr: Bleed You, Bone Shaper Shinnok: Post Patch Amulet Potential, Ranked with Shinnok: Master of Execution, Ranked with Shinnok: Enhance your Calm, Ranked With Kano: Quitality, Ranked with Kano: Can't do anything, Ranked with Kano: Fun Eh?, Ranked: Goro Lives, and Cutthroat advanced overview.

Other videos you are in include stream highlights, K&M vs the world, or speculation of early mkx trailers, and other miscellaneous stuff like the tier list and ESL predictions; however, those 17 videos are the ones that you are mainly responsible for. Heck, even on streams sometimes I just see Ketchup there listening to Mudvayne playing some random online ranked matches wondering where you are.

What happened to K&M vs the world? Will you ever share Shinnok tech (sort of like, what to do in the corner against Sub Zero, match up charts, using B2, why you stance switch randomly with Shinnok so you can see his front side, stuff like that)? Will you upload more ranked matches with Shinnok (at least before Cyrax comes out)? I'm not saying you're not involved, just that you don't participate as much :/ On a serious note though, I'm not hating or anything, I really love your content (especially the Shinnok kind) because it is interesting to hear your thought process on certain things and you have helped me with my Day 1 Shinnok. It really helped me play better and develop my Necromancer, my Bone Shaper, and my Impostor. It even lead me to join Shujinkydink's STB because of these 4 videos: Shinnok Kotal Mimic Combos, Shinnok Impostor Mimic Set Ups, and Shinnok Patch Changes Overview, Bone Shaper Shinnok Post Patch Amulet Potential. It sounds like an exaggeration, but ever since, I was able to develop Shinnok in my own way, it really brought me into competitive MKX.
 

PND_Ketchup

"More deadly than the dawn"
Mustard, there are approximately 150 videos of MKX content on the channel. Out of those 150, you are in about 65 of them (more or less). I'm just saying that you don't participate in commentary or individual videos. I'm pretty sure you are involved though. You are in ~43% of MKX videos, with only 17 of those videos being purely yours (~11%) without Ketchup in them (narrating and whatnot).

Shinnok Kotal Mimic Combos, Shinnok Impostor Mimic Set Ups, Ranked with Shinnok: Your Moves are Mine, Shinnok patch changes overview, Ranked with Shinnok: Buff City, Shinnok: How to punish Tricky Portal, Ranked with Ferra/Torr: Bleed You, Bone Shaper Shinnok: Post Patch Amulet Potential, Ranked with Shinnok: Master of Execution, Ranked with Shinnok: Enhance your Calm, Ranked With Kano: Quitality, Ranked with Kano: Can't do anything, Ranked with Kano: Fun Eh?, Ranked: Goro Lives, and Cutthroat advanced overview.

Other videos you are in include stream highlights, K&M vs the world, or speculation of early mkx trailers, and other miscellaneous stuff like the tier list and ESL predictions; however, those 17 videos are the ones that you are mainly responsible for. Heck, even on streams sometimes I just see Ketchup there listening to Mudvayne playing some random online ranked matches wondering where you are.

What happened to K&M vs the world? Will you ever share Shinnok tech (sort of like, what to do in the corner against Sub Zero, match up charts, using B2, why you stance switch randomly with Shinnok so you can see his front side, stuff like that)? Will you upload more ranked matches with Shinnok (at least before Cyrax comes out)? I'm not saying you're not involved, just that you don't participate as much :/ On a serious note though, I'm not hating or anything, I really love your content (especially the Shinnok kind) because it is interesting to hear your thought process on certain things and you have helped me with my Day 1 Shinnok. It really helped me play better and develop my Necromancer, my Bone Shaper, and my Impostor. It even lead me to join Shujinkydink's STB because of these 4 videos: Shinnok Kotal Mimic Combos, Shinnok Impostor Mimic Set Ups, and Shinnok Patch Changes Overview, Bone Shaper Shinnok Post Patch Amulet Potential. It sounds like an exaggeration, but ever since, I was able to develop Shinnok in my own way, it really brought me into competitive MKX.
I would like to quickly chime in here,

When it comes to the stream, I may just feel like chilling with some MKX by myself, so without even telling Mustard that I'm guna stream, I'll just turn it on, put some music on and start playing.

We're not joined at the hip, it is totally possible for just one of us to content create.

If it's a large substantial video, sure, we'll both be there, but if it's something I'll make because I feel it's necesarry to have, then I'll just go and make it. My computer also has a lot more tech on it for recording than Mustard's does. bear in mind we don;t share pc's or anything.

We can go back to K&M vs the world, but it wasn't possible for us in poland as our internet was too bad to play online, hence the lack of ranked matches in general.
 

STB Damashi

SmallBurntEarths
I would like to quickly chime in here,

When it comes to the stream, I may just feel like chilling with some MKX by myself, so without even telling Mustard that I'm guna stream, I'll just turn it on, put some music on and start playing.

We're not joined at the hip, it is totally possible for just one of us to content create.

If it's a large substantial video, sure, we'll both be there, but if it's something I'll make because I feel it's necesarry to have, then I'll just go and make it. My computer also has a lot more tech on it for recording than Mustard's does. bear in mind we don;t share pc's or anything.

We can go back to K&M vs the world, but it wasn't possible for us in poland as our internet was too bad to play online, hence the lack of ranked matches in general.
Yeah I understand you guys are busy with real life events, responsibilities, and ESL commentating. With streaming though sometimes you title it "MKX with K&M" with no Mustard in the stream T_T so it is a bit disconcerting lol.

I was so hyped seeing K&M vs the world; I remember I asked you guys on stream why there wasn't any footage of you guys competing at tournaments, and you said it was because you guys consider yourselves more commentators than tournament players (despite your guys' EVO placing). K&M vs the world provided footage for the viewers to enjoy and to analyze. Mustard can commentate your gameplay while you fight randoms, and you can commentate Mustard's. It would be interesting to watch as you guys try to read the opponent and explain the reasoning behind each move.

Your guys' objective approach to each match, in addition to your guys' thought process, provides the viewers with a look into the mind of two well-versed tournament players and fans of the franchise.

As for the tech on each other's computer, I just assumed you guys had access to the same stuff. My bad; I didn't think/know that contributed to Mustard's relatively small amount of content. I just thought he wasn't as involved or simply didn't want to participate. Even the channel is simply called PND Ketchup (no Mustard), so I assumed he was not as active in MK as you are. It's as simple as going to account settings>overview>Edit on Google+ for christ sakes!!
 

PND_Mustard

"More stealthful than the night"
Premium Supporter
Mustard, there are approximately 150 videos of MKX content on the channel. Out of those 150, you are in about 65 of them (more or less). I'm just saying that you don't participate in commentary or individual videos. I'm pretty sure you are involved though. You are in ~43% of MKX videos, with only 17 of those videos being purely yours (~11%) without Ketchup in them (narrating and whatnot).

Shinnok Kotal Mimic Combos, Shinnok Impostor Mimic Set Ups, Ranked with Shinnok: Your Moves are Mine, Shinnok patch changes overview, Ranked with Shinnok: Buff City, Shinnok: How to punish Tricky Portal, Ranked with Ferra/Torr: Bleed You, Bone Shaper Shinnok: Post Patch Amulet Potential, Ranked with Shinnok: Master of Execution, Ranked with Shinnok: Enhance your Calm, Ranked With Kano: Quitality, Ranked with Kano: Can't do anything, Ranked with Kano: Fun Eh?, Ranked: Goro Lives, and Cutthroat advanced overview.

Other videos you are in include stream highlights, K&M vs the world, or speculation of early mkx trailers, and other miscellaneous stuff like the tier list and ESL predictions; however, those 17 videos are the ones that you are mainly responsible for. Heck, even on streams sometimes I just see Ketchup there listening to Mudvayne playing some random online ranked matches wondering where you are.

What happened to K&M vs the world? Will you ever share Shinnok tech (sort of like, what to do in the corner against Sub Zero, match up charts, using B2, why you stance switch randomly with Shinnok so you can see his front side, stuff like that)? Will you upload more ranked matches with Shinnok (at least before Cyrax comes out)? I'm not saying you're not involved, just that you don't participate as much :/ On a serious note though, I'm not hating or anything, I really love your content (especially the Shinnok kind) because it is interesting to hear your thought process on certain things and you have helped me with my Day 1 Shinnok. It really helped me play better and develop my Necromancer, my Bone Shaper, and my Impostor. It even lead me to join Shujinkydink's STB because of these 4 videos: Shinnok Kotal Mimic Combos, Shinnok Impostor Mimic Set Ups, and Shinnok Patch Changes Overview, Bone Shaper Shinnok Post Patch Amulet Potential. It sounds like an exaggeration, but ever since, I was able to develop Shinnok in my own way, it really brought me into competitive MKX.
Ketchup posting videos of a bug he has found or highlights when he is playing by himself have no reason to include me.

Character breakdowns with other players do not need more than one of us, We use Ketchups setup to content create so it 100% makes sense for him to do them.

I do not just sit out and choose to not be included, some pieces of content would be cluttered and have an overall worse quality to them if we were both present.
 

STB Damashi

SmallBurntEarths
Ketchup posting videos of a bug he has found or highlights when he is playing by himself have no reason to include me.

Character breakdowns with other players do not need more than one of us, We use Ketchups setup to content create so it 100% makes sense for him to do them.

I do not just sit out and choose to not be included, some pieces of content would be cluttered and have an overall worse quality to them if we were both present.
Mustard, you have a Twitch. You have an awesome Shinnok (all 3 variations). You commentate matches very well. You read opponents (even randoms) very well. You know how to play characters that are not as popular (Kano, Goro, Shinnok, Ferra/Torr...). What I'm saying is, you have a lot of potential as a content creator, I just wished you added more of your own videos to the channel. Similar to how Ketchup gives his thoughts on things during a video, or when he randomly streams, it would be cool to just see more of what you've already been doing: playing MKX and just talking about stuff. Like, why don't you just sometimes randomly play MKX on stream and listen to whatever your favorite band is? Yes, Ketchup owns the equipment, but both of your guys' content is just really really informative and entertaining to watch, and there hasn't been stuff from you in a while (since Cyrax's breakdown video). At least make more Shinnok stuff before he stops existing in this game anymore lol
 

PND_Mustard

"More stealthful than the night"
Premium Supporter
Mustard, you have a Twitch. You have an awesome Shinnok (all 3 variations). You commentate matches very well. You read opponents (even randoms) very well. You know how to play characters that are not as popular (Kano, Goro, Shinnok, Ferra/Torr...). What I'm saying is, you have a lot of potential as a content creator, I just wished you added more of your own videos to the channel. Similar to how Ketchup gives his thoughts on things during a video, or when he randomly streams, it would be cool to just see more of what you've already been doing: playing MKX and just talking about stuff. Like, why don't you just sometimes randomly play MKX on stream and listen to whatever your favorite band is? Yes, Ketchup owns the equipment, but both of your guys' content is just really really informative and entertaining to watch, and there hasn't been stuff from you in a while (since Cyrax's breakdown video). At least make more Shinnok stuff before he stops existing in this game anymore lol
The PNDKetchup twitch and YT is shared. We have said countless times we want to change the name to PNDK&M to reflect this.
 

PND_Mustard

"More stealthful than the night"
Premium Supporter
Mustard for fucks sake, I just want you to make more of your own stuff if you can/want:D
And it's noted! It's hard to describe, but there will always be more Ketchup content than mine, purely on the fact that it's significantly easier for him to do so right now.

I will always be making content with him and by myself, the ratio is just always going to be a little off. :)
 

roosTakk

Chode Juggler
You guys ever going to make these videos for medium/high level play? I would like to figure out why I'm so free in this game thx
 

x TeeJay o

Canary Cry Gapless Pressure
One other thing i really REALLY want to see you guys do is a how to use practice mode video. I Feel the practice mode has NO attention within certain parts of the community and so many people can use that tool so much better myself included. Its great to know what frame data , anti air, combo advantage, ect means but its another thing to know how to find them. For example there can be a lesson on how to find frame traps for your character, how to take advantage of hit advantage/block, how to calculate frame data yourself(if you believe its incorrect), and many other things the mode offers.
 
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