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Question - Sub-Zero For someone considering getting MKX, what is Sub-Zero's standing in this?

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
Funny how every sub player says "omfg dude that is such a bad match up for sub zero" and others are like "dude x character gets 7-3 sub zero's favor REKT by him" lemme tell all you guys.....SITTING BEHIND A CLONE WHILE THE OTHER GUY'S TRAPPED IN THE CORNER IS A BROKEN TACTIC!
 

RagingRicans

NetBattles
Funny how every sub player says "omfg dude that is such a bad match up for sub zero" and others are like "dude x character gets 7-3 sub zero's favor REKT by him" lemme tell all you guys.....SITTING BEHIND A CLONE WHILE THE OTHER GUY'S TRAPPED IN THE CORNER IS A BROKEN TACTIC!
There's nothing to say here. This kind of mentality can't be reasoned with...
 

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
And you aren't going to argue because you just don't know how to prove me wrong
Edit:NO ARGUMENT INTENDED
 
Hey there, long time MK fan who is getting a PS4 for Christmas. I'm thinking about picking up MKX, but due to being so many months behind, I'm a bit hesitant. I'm also a character loyalist who has been using Sub-Zero since the MK2 days. With that said, I am willing to use someone else to cover bad match ups(this was a necessity in MK Deception and other games), so I have a few questions.

1. What is Sub-Zero's current standing in the game? Top 10 character? Top 20? Average at best?

2. With the amount of time this game gets updated, I'm assuming Sub will get touched up. Is it trending towards him being nerfed or buffed?

3. How numerous are Sub-Zero's bad match ups? Which are universally agreed upon to be bad? Due to the nature of his clone, characters who can teleport and punish as well as characters who are zone-oriented and can pester him with projectiles without needing to approach his clone, have given him problems. Is that the same in this game?

4. What character would you say best covers Sub-Zero's bad match ups?

Thanks guys.

It won't take you long to learn Sub Zero. He's still a very basic character. Grandmaster is obviously for you, with Cryomancer being a far second.

1. He's really good. Clone has no cooldown, unless blocked.
- His ex clone works like his clone in MKD. You can catch people running in on it, or on wakeup. it has armor, and be used to string together combos (F4~ex clone, run up, opponent is still stunned from f4, free combo. plus ex clone stays active for longer) Can also use b12 ex clone for massive damage.

- once you get people in the corner, you can lay the clone down, then do shatter combos, like b33 db1, d1, b12 clone. However you cannot do this from an ex clone. make sure you back away a tad before laying down the clone, or else the shatter will be too close, thus dropping your combo.

-f4 looks a lot like Dragon b4, but isn't a low. it has great range to punish and set up clones off block, or ex clone for pressure (f4, ex clone, run up, pressure).
-b33 is a great low starter that can be combo'd into freeze ball. f42 can be linked into ex freeze.
-f3 is a high low starter that is deceptively fast. use it.
-after you set up a clone, you can throw people into it. this is great pressure, and what i use instead of shatter combos. 50/50's into clone. jab, low, throw
-12 is a high low string, which is pretty good. it pushes back pretty far on block if i recall. also has 123. or 11
- he has a unique string in cryomancer: 111. which you can link a regular freeze off of for good damage.

there's a lot, but i'll leave the rest to you. you know you can come to me if you have any questions. hope we can get a game vs each other...


2. neither. but i personally believe the clone should have cooldown.


3. yes, it is the same in this game. have a secondary for your bad matchups. i would suggest dvorah, kung lao, tanya, shinnok/quan, just to name a few.


4. i would suggest dvorah, kung lao, tanya, shinnok/quan, just to name a few.

best of luck to you, man. you deserve all the respect in the world, from my eyes. thanks for always being a true friend, and a true supporter. hope this helps out somewhat. i don't get to play often.....


"not even Zobek can save the knicks" - Versa
 

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
Sub has no mixups , you just block until Klone disappears then armor out
I've played UsedForGlue's sub and he destroyed me in the corner unreactable mixups.free clone that gives you enough time to make a coffee amd then drink it and wash the cup and then go back almost forgetting you even used the clone
 

boba_buster

Noob saibot
Ask glue to go into training mode with u so u can practice getting out and in 30 mins u will no longer fear the clone
 

TQT1995

Scrub - Zero
I hate this crap, don't just regurgitate stuff you've read, either look into it and make a decision for yourself, or let somebody who does know post the advice. At least you are willing to be open minded about the groupthink and have your opinion changed because the ones that just say "everyone thinks this thats why its correct and you are wrong" are even worse, but still this sort of mentality at all hurts discussion unfortunately

But you were right, Unbreakable is trash tier. Mid tier is a joke
The only way you can use unbreakable is by using his 50/50 into Ice Armor or ex ice Armor. Your main goal is to play a bit more defensive and confuse the opponent with either b33 or b2 after the armor. Only use the Ice barrier as a last resort since it's easily punishable with delayed attacks or overheads (Yes it's really stupid). B33 works really well with female hitbox since you're guaranteed a freeze ball then after you can do b12 into ice armor to start the 50/50.
I main Unbreakable and this is what I've found out from my experiences.
 

M.D.

Spammer. Crouch walk hater.
Grandmaster is overpowered, everyone knows that.
The only ones screaming he's not are GM mains.

Everyone counterpicks GM with Lao and Dvorah because otherwise you can't do jack shit.

Since all tourneys are won by KungLao, and full with Kung Lao, you will never see a GM place top 8.
But that's only because of Lao, he's still op as fuck.


:D
 

xxFalcon Loverxx

Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
Grandmaster is overpowered, everyone knows that.
The only ones screaming he's not are GM mains.

Everyone counterpicks GM with Lao and Dvorah because otherwise you can't do jack shit.

Since all tourneys are won by KungLao, and full with Kung Lao, you will never see a GM place top 8.
But that's only because of Lao, he's still op as fuck.


:D
Nah i just counter pick with mirror matches
 

zoofs

bless
Grandmaster is overpowered, everyone knows that.
The only ones screaming he's not are GM mains.

Everyone counterpicks GM with Lao and Dvorah because otherwise you can't do jack shit.

Since all tourneys are won by KungLao, and full with Kung Lao, you will never see a GM place top 8.
But that's only because of Lao, he's still op as fuck.


:D
sometimes I like to think you aren't that crazy and more of just a huge troll but then I see posts like these

its gotta stop man