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So, what truly is the WORST matchup in this game?

Mortal Komhat

Worst Well-Established Goro Player Ever
I don't see how Jason does better against Tanya than Goro. >_> Tanya, Johnny Cage, Liu Kang and Kitana straight up wreck Jason. I'm sure Goro has slightly more options than Jason.
He does. Just EX PW is like a godsend in that matchup.

Goro also has a 6f d1 which means he has the best chance to actually poke out of her pressure, especially if she is trying to frame trap with rekka 1.
6f d1 AND d3 just so you know.

Like, they leave a gap in the rekka? EX PW for 30+ damage and full/half-screen (if you dash up once).
 
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She doesn't seem to have an issue keeping him out unless he has meter. But maybe I'm just bad.
Honestly, just walk forward lol. duck and walk. One ex clothesline and you're in if you want to spend the meter. Up close her normals aren't exactly great. Jason's aren't amazing, but she does have to respect them. If you bait a wakeup she's eating a full combo every time. Also has to respect the b1 string, as if she's not cautious with fans you're in.

I find it's the same thing with Goro. Just walk and duck, or ex stomp. His buttons kill her up close.
 
Honestly, just walk forward lol. duck and walk. One ex clothesline and you're in if you want to spend the meter. Up close her normals aren't exactly great. Jason's aren't amazing, but she does have to respect them. If you bait a wakeup she's eating a full combo every time. Also has to respect the b1 string, as if she's not cautious with fans you're in.

I find it's the same thing with Goro. Just walk and duck, or ex stomp. His buttons kill her up close.
EX stomp vs run is a 9-1 MU though :DOGE
 

NoobSaibot

PSN: JP_THUNDA
I feel like any character that doesn't have a 6 frame poke is at least at an 8-2 disadvantage against Noob. It is a little broken that they gave Noob a 7 frame unlockable teleport with great tracking in all 3 variations!!!! Not to mention he can make all of his pressure dumb safe in his Shadow Master variation due to his Saibot based attacks. And don't even get me started on his portal master variation!!!! A 10 frame portal projectile that is completely safe and leads to full combo!!! Thanks NRS!!! Honestly though I love his design and it really makes up for him sucking in mk9.
 

Lumpymoomilk

Online Punching Bag
Yeah as others have said Tanya vs Goro is pretty terrible, characters with high mobility give him trouble I find and she's flying all over the screen most matches.
 

Asodimazze

https://twitter.com/AlfioZacco
Cage shadowkick is throw immune, on a dick hard read you can SKRC in someones face to punish a throw/command throw attempt.
And that makes no sense, they should get rid of this grab immune property once and for all...
 

Schuyler

Noob
Does cassie have any horrible matchups? Off the top of my dome grandmaster may be a losing matchup but not by a lot. I feel she does horrible against zoners also.
 
Does cassie have any horrible matchups? Off the top of my dome grandmaster may be a losing matchup but not by a lot. I feel she does horrible against zoners also.
Don't see how Hollywood or SF would have a hard time against GM sub. But then I don't know much about cassie.

Do you have any reasoning behind?
 

RM_NINfan101

Nine Inch Nails fan from Metro Detroit, Michigan
I have played the Blood/Sun God matchup A LOT and I would say I really think Grandmaster Sub fucks him.
 

Tweedy

Noob
I feel like any character that doesn't have a 6 frame poke is at least at an 8-2 disadvantage against Noob. It is a little broken that they gave Noob a 7 frame unlockable teleport with great tracking in all 3 variations!!!! Not to mention he can make all of his pressure dumb safe in his Shadow Master variation due to his Saibot based attacks. And don't even get me started on his portal master variation!!!! A 10 frame portal projectile that is completely safe and leads to full combo!!! Thanks NRS!!! Honestly though I love his design and it really makes up for him sucking in mk9.
Lol am I the only one who sees this post? Super creepy.
 

A F0xy Grampa

Problem X Promotions
Ok, I'm being a bit of a jerk and I apologize for that.

The fact is that on these forums, 99% of the time when you raise a point against a character, there is for certain someone that posts and says pretty much the same thing you said : " shut up, you're free, level up ".
This has nothing to do with the point and with the match-up numbers.

Another example, your "Riiight" there also implies i'm getting 10-0 ed by every grandmaster out there. I'm usually going back and forth with it, I lose when I get bored and I don't want to wait, but when I'm careful and slide all his clone throws and break his clone with spit the moment he does it, the match goes just fine.

I was just pointing out that he has a lot of favorable matchups. *hint* O : - )
Well, if you think about it, 'level up' is far more useful to advice to take on board than just writing down 2 numbers that add up to 10 and sticking a characters name either side.

Obviously some matches are harder than others, but I can't honestly remember a time where a matchup number was any use to anybody ever.
 

Prinz

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I feel like any character that doesn't have a 6 frame poke is at least at an 8-2 disadvantage against Noob. It is a little broken that they gave Noob a 7 frame unlockable teleport with great tracking in all 3 variations!!!! Not to mention he can make all of his pressure dumb safe in his Shadow Master variation due to his Saibot based attacks. And don't even get me started on his portal master variation!!!! A 10 frame portal projectile that is completely safe and leads to full combo!!! Thanks NRS!!! Honestly though I love his design and it really makes up for him sucking in mk9.
Yeah, and his third variation, the Master Master dominates all. Pun intended.
 
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Schuyler

Noob
Don't see how Hollywood or SF would have a hard time against GM sub. But then I don't know much about cassie.

Do you have any reasoning behind?
If you dont jave instant air gus down consistently then shes horrible against zoners. And she has no advancing armour moves to challenge clone accept her upward kick.
 
If you dont jave instant air gus down consistently then shes horrible against zoners. And she has no advancing armour moves to challenge clone accept her upward kick.
Yeah but mu numbers are supposed to be measured at the highest level of play and at the highest level you got instant airs down.
Any way, gm is not a zoner. And you don't need to armour through the clone, you just need to make him block for it to disappear. I mean sure in the corner I can see how it's bad but it's like that for half the cast.
Not trying to be rude here as I said I know very little about cassie.
 

SM StarGazer

The voice of reason in a Sea of Salt
Well, if you think about it, 'level up' is far more useful to advice to take on board than just writing down 2 numbers that add up to 10 and sticking a characters name either side.

Obviously some matches are harder than others, but I can't honestly remember a time where a matchup number was any use to anybody ever.
Right! If anything it lets you know which characters you should keep a look out for. Knowledge my brotha's, use it or lose it.

#BuffFujinHe's0-10VersusEveryone
 

BigMacMcLovin

B2s and Birdarangs
If you dont jave instant air gus down consistently then shes horrible against zoners. And she has no advancing armour moves to challenge clone accept her upward kick.
Definitely a difficult match up but I don't think its outrageously bad for Cassie. If you have a Sub who sits the otherwise of the clone then B2 or DF1 are her best options. If you're not patient then you will get wrecked for sure but if you can control the pace then I think she can take it.
 

GLoRToR

Positive Poster!
Pyromancer vs Cryomancer. All her armour gets beaten out, all her strings can get armoured through for 50%+ damage while she struggles to get 30% off of the rare occasion where she gets shroud on him.
Unwinnable.
 

Diego de Souza Costa

***The Soul Consuming Darkness***
pretty much anyone vs Quan, i can't do shit, he clearly needs more buffs....

P.S. isn't, HQT Predz vs Kotal, a really shitty MU for Kotal, i can't see how he can get in.... lel
 

Jupe

Noob
full auto vs F/T seems like a horrible matchup for F/T imo, as jacqui can always end 1212 with uprocket for some nice frame advantage.