Best Variation of each character (My opinions)

DevilMaySpy · Sep 28, 2015

Compbros said:
*looks for Cassie, doesn't see spec ops, close tab.

Do you wanna take this outside?

errormacro7 · Sep 28, 2015

Wow, Metallic is Tremor's best variation. :eek:

chrisisnice · Sep 28, 2015

CoolChameleon said:
Because discussion stuff with you is pointless because you always have to be right. <3

I do not understand the point of this thread if you cannot handle others giving you feedback about it (particularly if they play the character). You are taking it as an attack when it is most likely just to educate you and all others reading this post.

I think it is fair enough that someone asks you to quantify why you feel a certain variation is the strongest. You may even get them seeing their character in a different light which will help them in the long run.

If you are not going to listen to the opinions of others, it seems like a bit of a self indulgent / pointless thread.

OutworldKeith · Sep 28, 2015

CoolChameleon said:
This is my list of what i think is the best variation of each character in mkx, if you think differently id love to hear your opinions in the comments below.

Scorpion: Inferno

Stop it

CoolChameleon · Sep 28, 2015

RM Cossner said:
So when someone challenges your opinion, you just say it's pointless to argue with them?

i don't feel like arguing right now, maybe another time.

<3

Cossner · Sep 28, 2015

CoolChameleon · Sep 28, 2015

chrisisnice said:
I do not understand the point of this thread if you cannot handle others giving you feedback about it (particularly if they play the character). You are taking it as an attack when it is most likely just to educate you and all others reading this post.

I think it is fair enough that someone asks you to quantify why you feel a certain variation is the strongest. You may even get them seeing their character in a different light which will help them in the long run.

If you are not going to listen to the opinions of others, it seems like a bit of a self indulgent / pointless thread.

i would love to hear peoples opinions and arguments, i just don't feel like arguing with cossner because i don't want to offend the almighty king of mkx himself.

CoolChameleon · Sep 28, 2015

Hollywood DMS said:
Do you wanna take this outside?

lol

VAAAAAAAAN · Sep 28, 2015

This should probably be closed if there's not going to be any discussion. So far most of the posts have been about why the OP won't discuss. Lol

CoolChameleon · Sep 28, 2015

VAAAAAAAAN said:
This should probably be closed if there's not going to be any discussion. So far most of the posts have been about why the OP won't discuss. Lol

i do want to discuss, but no one wants too. lol

Daemantalo · Sep 28, 2015

Your post looks like a roll of Lifesavers. I dig it.

CoolChameleon · Sep 28, 2015

Daemantalo said:
Your post looks like a roll of Lifesavers. I dig it.

haha, for sure.

Error · Sep 28, 2015

RM Cotner said:

Let it go cotner

MadeOfMetal · Sep 28, 2015

VAAAAAAAAN said:
This should probably be closed if there's not going to be any discussion. So far most of the posts have been about why the OP won't discuss. Lol

nah i think all the ones arguing should be kicked out

he just stated his opinion, others can do the same, all they have to do is not like his post and post their list.
hellif people wernt so sour in this thread hed probably make a tally at end, but probably not going to happen... i know how my MU's work and i have no reason to state in the public eye what i feel they are. so i just made a quick change to list. no need to make him believe the way you do, thats just ludicrous

Pan1cMode · Sep 28, 2015

Shotgun is Jacqui's best variation.

- better footsies
- equal/better damage
- better 50/50s
- equal/better block pressure (after the recent patch)

CoolChameleon · Sep 28, 2015

Pan1cMode said:
Shotgun is Jacqui's best variation.

- better footsies
- equal/better damage
- better 50/50s
- equal/better block pressure (after the recent patch)

you do have to agree that full autos zoning is pretty damn great tho eh?

and her air rockets are pretty good AA's that can lead to a combo.

MadeOfMetal · Sep 28, 2015

Pan1cMode said:
Shotgun is Jacqui's best variation.

- better footsies
- equal/better damage
- better 50/50s
- equal/better block pressure (after the recent patch)

did that up rocket nerf effect that variation that much?

VAAAAAAAAN · Sep 28, 2015

CoolChameleon said:
i do want to discuss, but no one wants too. lol

You updated the OP while I was posting haha. Why Piercing over Ravenous now, and why either of them over ethereal? Ethereal is the only variation that can actually be played very safe. Both other variations force her to over commit to a lot of unsafe stuff. She has a lot of frame traps, jail strings, and builds lots of meter safely. The only thing I can think of that piercing has over ethereal is a little more damage and b12.

Pan1cMode · Sep 28, 2015

CoolChameleon said:
you do have to agree that full autos zoning is pretty damn great tho eh?

and her air rockets are pretty good AA's that can lead to a combo.

Her zoning is not great haha. It's not even top 10 zoning lol. If you play her as a zoning character, you're going to get hurt badly.

ESG Jagged said:
did that up rocket nerf effect that variation that much?

Full auto was only marginally better than shotgun before the patch. Now that she's lost the guaranteed follow ups and her pressure has been greatly reduced, shotgun probably edges out full auto. It didn't completely destroy her as a character, but it took what made her really good as a variation, and made her mediocre.

CoolChameleon · Sep 28, 2015

VAAAAAAAAN said:
You updated the OP while I was posting haha. Why Piercing over Ravenous now, and why either of them over ethereal? Ethereal is the only variation that can actually be played very safe. Both other variation force her to over commit to a lot of unsafe stuff. She has a lot of frame traps and jail strings, builds lots of meter safely, The only thing I can think of that piercing has over ethereal is a little more damage and b12.

im not a mileener player but doesn't piercing have a better njp? and she's got those low sais, and like you said B12

CoolChameleon · Sep 28, 2015

Pan1cMode said:
Her zoning is not great haha. It's not even top 10 zoning lol. If you play her as a zoning character, you're going to get hurt badly.

how so?

MadeOfMetal · Sep 28, 2015

VAAAAAAAAN said:
You updated the OP while I was posting haha. Why Piercing over Ravenous now, and why either of them over ethereal? Ethereal is the only variation that can actually be played very safe. Both other variations force her to over commit to a lot of unsafe stuff. She has a lot of frame traps, jail strings, and builds lots of meter safely. The only thing I can think of that piercing has over ethereal is a little more damage and b12.

hmmmmmmmm

ESG Jagged said:
move/on block
1= 0
12= +2
123= +2
124= -5
2= -4
21= -7
21U4= -5
4= -1
F1= +1
F12B4= -6 (i believe this is now +2)
B1= -4
B12= -5
F2= -5
F23= -7
B2= -2
B22= -7
F3= +2
F34= -1

variation specific:

Piercing:
B1= -6
F1= +2
B2= -4
B12= +2

Ravenous:
High Pounce(DB3)= -7

id say peircing got the better buffs, but ethreal can get out of vortex? who knows. i like them all, rav has that high pounce and low pounce?

KuralKing · Sep 28, 2015

Why ruthless for Ferra Torr? Even with the pain n cancel, Vicious & Lackey are Superior Variations!

CoolChameleon · Sep 28, 2015

KuralKing said:
Why ruthless for Ferra Torr? Even with the pain n cancel, Vicious & Lackey are Superior Variations!

I don't play Ferra torr but isn't his command grab in ruthless his strongest command grab? I could be wrong

Enexemander · Sep 28, 2015

I don't think it makes sense to talk about "Best Variations" without talking about match-ups.

If a character has a "Best Variation" for all match-ups, then the variations for that character were designed poorly.

Example- Grandmaster Sub-Zero. Probably the go-to "main" variation, but it has problems against character who can attack through it (like D'Vorah), or any character that can hugely mitigate or ignore the clone. Talking D'Vorah specifically, on paper Unbreakable should be the best, because both Swarm Queen and Venomous get a lot of damage from chip. In reality, it's probably still best to Cryo, but you can argue the point.

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