Jacqui has an 8f mid, still not useful in neutral because its got shitty range, same as Raiden.
I think this is exactly what this character needs. An effective, safe footsie/spacing tool. People don't even realize how often his d1 & d3 are punished.
I did the same, dropped Ermac and raiden and I learned JC and Lord Trevor. NRS doesn't know how to properly balance nerfing.
B1 doesnt have range its meant to be the one you use when they are right in your face as a counter poke for its speed. It also hits after a blocked f2 that leaves you plus so its a frame trap for anything above 6 frames. The F2 I havent seen been used and I dont know why. Its one of his best strings imo, an advancing mid combo starter that is special cancellable and plus on block. When cancelled into EX teleport on block is at least plus 13 because I was getting the overhead to jail afterwards, so no armoring or backdashing out of that 50-50. F2 itself is plus 2 on block and 50 on hit, so you can use that as a max range poke and if it hits you get another free mix up. F4 being buffed to be safe is big for his neutral too because if he has meter they have to respect the EX shocker afterwards so they hesitate to press buttons. F2 2+4 into far behind teleport F4 is a great tool for teleport mind games. And for both Thunder God and Displacer Ive been building meter like crazy the whole time. I think this character is absolutely fine. Although I have not been using master of storms yet so I cant talk about whther or not that shit is viable but the other two are perfectly good characters. Anything but weak
I main him and I feel he's still really good
Damn...that's discouraging, was really hoping to get used to the other 2 variations...Oh well i'll be a raiden main till the end.
I admire your optimism but until you start discussing his tools in the context of high level tournament play then I have to assume you are speaking from a casual / online perspective.
Just the same way you said it, no offense but I think the whole Raiden community needs to level up instead of asking for buffs. I agree Master of Storms and Displacer need buffs, but I see people want Thunder God buffed. I also agree he took too many hits from the consecutive patches but Thunder God is still good. He doesn't need to be overpowered or easier to use. People complain because his 6 frame mid became a high, when in reality it's still a mid. You gotta force/condition your opponent to respect it, and it's crazy that it's only 6 frames. Even then people complain. What they need is learn better spacing to put such a fast move to use. At times it would seem as if all they want is just a character that will give them free wins instead of working for them.
I understand why I can't have the same weight behind my arguments, unfortunately, I can't go to any tournaments as there aren't any in Birmingham, England. Anyways, I never said that Liu Kang could stuff armor better, but he is the on person that can come close to stuffing armor as good as Raiden. Raiden is the best at stuffing armor. It seems I may have phrased it wrong, my apologies.
Elaborate please. Give me an example of this armor stuffing prowess.
LMAO....i just noticed the "face" in your name
B12. B1 is a 9 mid that has two hits, and is special cancelable. Its obviously not on Raiden's level, but it's one of the only armor breaking moves I can think of. In some situations, like dualist liu kang's frame trap of 213 dd1, it will break most armor.
