Yeah hahaha was just about to post to say they didn't really say much just something like "fuckin salt shaker posting everywhere" gotta love the shout outs
I was referring to your response to NRS, not the OP. I was unaware you guys had beef.
This is the only mystery that matters.
It's a good question, sir, these are my findings:
Shit we should have known not to trust patches.What? Did someone say Patches?
Got so hype for that too . . . Then so much disappointment. Basically my experience with MoS Raiden and even more so with NRS.
"autoblock" is also used in the notes when addressing reptile's noxious and invis combos. And Sub's ice aura combos.
That would actually be in line with the original meaning, I think. As far as I can tell, 'autoblock' is the term for making moves link after each other on hit, something that is atypical for NRS games. Reptile's invisiblity and noxious were buffed in patches to make it so you can link attacks after those moves on hit, same with Sub's ice aura. These projectile attacks were changed because...I'm not sure. This seems like one of those quality of life things.Got so hype for that too . . . Then so much disappointment. Basically my experience with MoS Raiden and even more so with NRS.
"autoblock" is also used in the notes when addressing reptile's noxious and invis combos. And Sub's ice aura combos.
So if what you're saying about Reptile's spit is true, why does NRS use terms in patch notes that have two different meanings? That should probably be the next topic for unsolved mysteries of MKx.
P.S. If that is all they intended to do with Raiden's projectile . . . .I don't even know. That just seems dumb. not in a good dirty top tier way. Like a proximity damage on orbs way. Just "why that of all things?"
OK, I think you don't know a bit so here's some info.
Yeah, what I'm thinking is that there was a universal change regarding projectiles of two different types hitting (Quan Chi, etc.) and not comboing, so they fixed it, and then Reptile and Raiden were next. But the term 'autoblock' is used here in a different sense then when Sub and Reptile hit you with a move 2-in-1'd into a special...hmm. I'll concede my friend, I was confused and you lit me up with that one. I appreciate the lesson!
What I assume that means is that there's no longer autoblock within the active frames of the move... So when Raiden is, for example, hitting you into the MoS lightning trap, the trap is hitting you before Raiden has recovered from the move. Whereas before it would autoblock anything it forces the character into regardless. Because the recovery is not instantaneous, you can't follow up within those frames with a normal, you're only at a hit advantage. With the other characters, you're cancelling out the normal recovery of a move to link something else, so you're able to attack within a window where they should be vulnerable to hits rather than the normal recovery of the move it's cancelled from. Basically just like run cancel specials. So they're different scenarios. It makes sense, it's just not a very significant buff for Raiden.
The thing that doesn't make sense is to use one term as if it's universal. In both situations it is stated "move x no longer causes autoblock." But with reptile and Sub it also mentions that "new combos are available" or something to that extent. IIRC, that part isn't listed for Raiden but that doesn't change the fact on a mathematical frame counting level, f1 should link after lightning ball. Now I'm not saying Raiden should have this but that NRS shouldn't use one term to mean a multitude of different scenarios. Everything should be properly explained. And that's not just some rule I have against NRS. It's how I would want any documentation done and it's how I would do it myself.
Lemme try to explain what I mean better. With Raiden's projectile, the recovery for both of you has ended when you're trying to link, you're just at an advantage. It's the same for pretty much any move with hit advantage. Lots of normals in this game give a lot of hit advantage but don't allow you to link. But it would be dumb if, for example, Reptile was doing a normal and the opponent gets hit by an acid ball, but they're able to autoblock within the recovery of the attack before Reptile even would.
First of all thanks for the find!! So.. i found that you can do about 2 characters away ex bolt stop run jump over ji1, b1,projectile and it connects for 42-43% but its way situational and you can sacrifice damage to send the ball behind them for example 213, f2 , f2, b11 ex bolt(if they dont roll) stop behind them! also i thought the grab will be a good set up but has auto block lol
And something with Low Rocket was changed in the previous patch, as B2~DB3 in FA is more inconsistent than ever, and does not even work AT ALL against certain characters, and the Low Rocket whiffs on all character when doing this combo from specific ranges. This was one of her only safe meterless options midscreen off her OH, it used to be 100% consistent. Seems the blast radius was changed [this was never mentioned].
