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General/Other - Kano After the patch/hotfix: Here's my opinion on Kano

SaltShaker

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
HuttonMD said:
And still has its uses in corner but depends on your life obviously but really you can do close to sane damage using exdb1 which is kinda lame
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Stick to EX DB1 combos imo. And as far as +Frames, stick to EX Knives over the "buff".

If you're gonna spend a bar on block on a hit confirmable string, then go +9 on block with EX Knives into pressure for more adv on most strings and no life lost.

If you're going to combo, you can do about 3% less damage with EX DB1 combos and pressure their WU, rather than lose 6% health and give up a free WU or lose 10%-15% health pressuring.

I would only do EX Buff pressure with a significant life lead or knowing a combo and a next hit will end the match. The damage midscreen just isn't high enough anymore. Definitely doesn't feel like an "all purpose go to BnB". The armor purposes seem to have dimished as well since now you not only would absorb the damage, but get the health drain after. I'll probably just try to make good reads and block/punish rather than armor counter now.
 
HuttonMD

HuttonMD

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SaltShaker said:
Stick to EX DB1 combos imo. And as far as +Frames, stick to EX Knives over the "buff".

If you're gonna spend a bar on block on a hit confirmable string, then go +9 on block with EX Knives into pressure for more adv on most strings and no life lost.

If you're going to combo, you can do about 3% less damage with EX DB1 combos and pressure their WU, rather than lose 6% health and give up a free WU or lose 10%-15% health pressuring.

I would only do EX Buff pressure with a significant life lead or knowing a combo and a next hit will end the match. The damage midscreen just isn't high enough anymore. Definitely doesn't feel like an "all purpose go to BnB". The armor purposes seem to have dimished as well since now you not only would absorb the damage, but get the health drain after. I'll probably just try to make good reads and block/punish rather than armor counter now.
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Yea having both the damage Nerf and DOT really did hurt the exbuffs uses.

What is the optimal go to exdb1 combo?
I usually do 112 exdb1 njp 112 ball I think its 36% or 35% I haven't got the combos with the regular slice in middle of combo down yet so Im not comfortable using then in matches.

And if you do the whole b121 string into exknives your +9 as well right?

I think it funny how ppl acted like we never had +frames for our 50/50 and just because one string is as plus as mb hell sparks it was to much when exknives always left us +9
 
HuttonMD

HuttonMD

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Also I do 112 exball cancel f212 f212 112 ball which does around same are they pretty optimal or no?
 
ando1184

ando1184

Noob
HuttonMD said:
Yea having both the damage Nerf and DOT really did hurt the exbuffs uses.

What is the optimal go to exdb1 combo?
I usually do 112 exdb1 njp 112 ball I think its 36% or 35% I haven't got the combos with the regular slice in middle of combo down yet so Im not comfortable using then in matches.

And if you do the whole b121 string into exknives your +9 as well right?

I think it funny how ppl acted like we never had +frames for our 50/50 and just because one string is as plus as mb hell sparks it was to much when exknives always left us +9
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112, ex db1, f212, run cancel, 112 bf3 I think does 40%

Edit: well "did" 40%, idk since the patch
 
SaltShaker

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
HuttonMD said:
Yea having both the damage Nerf and DOT really did hurt the exbuffs uses.

What is the optimal go to exdb1 combo?
I usually do 112 exdb1 njp 112 ball I think its 36% or 35% I haven't got the combos with the regular slice in middle of combo down yet so Im not comfortable using then in matches.

And if you do the whole b121 string into exknives your +9 as well right?

I think it funny how ppl acted like we never had +frames for our 50/50 and just because one string is as plus as mb hell sparks it was to much when exknives always left us +9
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-If you're finding the other combos a little too tough at the moment, until you get them down stick to the ones that you can do consistently in matches and keep practicing the others. For that combo, I would suggest doing RC B121 Kano Ball after the NJP. It's still easy on the execution and gives you a percent or two more damage with better wall carry.

-Yup. Always +9 after EX Knives. A B3 into combo crushes anything if they push buttons unless the armor or whatever. Then once they're conditioned to block you can use instant run cancels into 50/50's or grabs.

-Yea it's hilarious. Most people had no idea about the character and it showed when the patch hit. Now they're all gone as if nothing ever happened lol.
 
VoyagersRevenge

VoyagersRevenge

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ando1184 said:
I find it funny that after the hotfix/patch his movelist states that the ex buff (dd3+R2): "Gains a bigger damage buff without losing health" lol classic nrs
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Lets hope someone messed up and that damage loss disappears for using a bar. It makes no sense to use a bar for a few % more damage and health loss.
 
ando1184

ando1184

Noob
VoyagersRevenge said:
Lets hope someone messed up and that damage loss disappears for using a bar. It makes no sense to use a bar for a few % more damage and health loss.
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That's the thing though, the hotfix made it to where there is no small percent increase. The ex buff deals the exact same amount of damage as the regular buff now :( It just activates faster, that's all.
 
VoyagersRevenge

VoyagersRevenge

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ando1184 said:
That's the thing though, the hotfix made it to where there is no small percent increase. The ex buff deals the exact same amount of damage as the regular buff now :( It just activates faster, that's all.
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Someone needs to justify the hotfix nerf! Who do we contact about this? This is blasphemy lol. Seriously who can we contact?
 
HuttonMD

HuttonMD

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VoyagersRevenge said:
Someone needs to justify the hotfix nerf! Who do we contact about this? This is blasphemy lol. Seriously who can we contact?
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Lol if only it would make a difference. Maybe after a little bit once things die down they will change it back to no DOT.
Its definitely overkill and if its as easy as a hotfix to change it then it definitely could happen.
 
ando1184

ando1184

Noob
HuttonMD said:
Lol if only it would make a difference. Maybe after a little bit once things die down they will change it back to no DOT.
Its definitely overkill and if its as easy as a hotfix to change it then it definitely could happen.
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But is there anyone in our community that has contact with someone from NRS or Paulo or whoever via twitter, FB, email, something? I feel like tym is all we have in our community :( otherwise I wouldn't have expected such a change as this woulda happened in the first place.
 
VoyagersRevenge

VoyagersRevenge

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HuttonMD said:
Lol if only it would make a difference. Maybe after a little bit once things die down they will change it back to no DOT.
Its definitely overkill and if its as easy as a hotfix to change it then it definitely could happen.
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Well, I think the issue that most of the community that plays Cutthroat will have is the hotfix nerf not making any sense lol. They couuld have ATLEAST given us no health loss for the regular buff which doesn't require a bar of meter. This hotfix must and I am almost 100% sure, must be temporary and something that they just slapped on until they can fix the problem properly.
 
VoyagersRevenge

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Doombawkz said:
Kano mains' reaction to the changes

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That was me on the day of the patch until midnight lmfaooooooooooo. Check the forums and you'll probably see previous comments in all caps repping #KNIVEBOYZ #WEMADEIT .....pfft, my ayyse. We took a few steps back. We got back handed shinnok style
 
HuttonMD

HuttonMD

ADM Riddles
VoyagersRevenge said:
Well, I think the issue that most of the community that plays Cutthroat will have is the hotfix nerf not making any sense lol. They couuld have ATLEAST given us no health loss for the regular buff which doesn't require a bar of meter. This hotfix must and I am almost 100% sure, must be temporary and something that they just slapped on until they can fix the problem properly.
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Yea I just Dont understand why they did both damage Nerf and DOT and your right it could be a place holder to see how it plays out and they figure out what they wanna do to it
 
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