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Strategy - Shinnok Shinnok's Patch changes 8-31-15

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Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
Not a stealth nerf. The adjustment to block pushback affected all characters, it's listed in the first part of the patch notes guys.
 

Hidan

Where the hell is Reiko's wheel kick
The risk reward is always bad for him now. He takes terrible guesses after SPENDING a bar.
Reward may be low, but for what risk? A -11/-8 overhead?
it's a mixup, you still build bar after 4 hits on block including 1st hell spark from low option, spending bars is not a problem for this one
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
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His damage was nerfed AND guaranteed chip was nerfed? His problem was NEVER that he did "too much damage", lol what the hell. I'm fine with one being nerfed but both being nerfed really is gonna make him mid tier.

It's cool though, now I can call people retarded if they say Shinnok is broken and not be worried of thousands of bandwagon Shinnok players.
 
No u can't
Hm you're right. Idk why I thought you could still (maybe I was confused after with a dark beam restand) but It adds more mind games because you're still plus and can run up and block or attack if they think you'll try to bait them
 

CL_ZBFD

Sr Saurio
I agree, it´s looking like BS will be a decent, not great, mid range zoning character with decent options going in. I main impostor... this one hurts us more I think. Anyway, time will tell.
 

Ray'sGoodLiquor

I don't care I'm not a competitive player anymore
I did a few sets last night for the first time with the patch and I couldnt explain why my F4 was getting destroyed after MB sparks on block. I thought I was having hardware/input lag, but the worst of my suspicions have been confirmed. I noticed that the 2nd hit of 112 never whiffs now when you land the first hit at max range, but without the HS pressure, I can't see much of a point in sticking with him. You guys go check out Quan, I've already been there and got bored. I'm giving Reptile a call.
 

Asodimazze

https://twitter.com/AlfioZacco
I did a few sets last night for the first time with the patch and I couldnt explain why my F4 was getting destroyed after MB sparks on block. I thought I was having hardware/input lag, but the worst of my suspicions have been confirmed. I noticed that the 2nd hit of 112 never whiffs now when you land the first hit at max range, but without the HS pressure, I can't see much of a point in sticking with him. You guys go check out Quan, I've already been there and got bored. I'm giving Reptile a call.
Because being +14 after mb hellspark is just bad right?
 

Ray'sGoodLiquor

I don't care I'm not a competitive player anymore
Because being +14 after mb hellspark is just bad right?
Just being +14 isn't some magical thing that opens doors to top 8's with a twitch of the stick. You need something useful to follow that +14 up. Why spend a bar to essentially put yourself at +4-5 due to the new range with your other option being another hell spark which is punishable by a lot of the cast? Especially for Imposter, meter doesn't come all that easy, so you were often forced to choose between an extra few percent of chip or the next combo doing more than 19% damage. I know a lot of people are still salted up from their inability to deal with Bone Shaper, but his MB Spark pressure is only "special" while in that variation, so the nerf hurts Imposter and Necro when neither deserved nerfs by anyone's standards. The Dark Beam nerf was the biggie that everyone agreed was necessary. No complaints there. Same with his mop. It's still a fantastic special, and all it lost was a few probably unintended setups. No complaints there. In case you haven't noticed, a good Bone Shaper is still going to annoy the fuck out of the people for the same reasons. His dirt is still there, it's just harder to do and very hard to consistently punish when done correctly. All the indirect pushbacl nerf did was hurt his other two variations, one being pretty balanced, and the other being underwhelming already.
 

Prinz

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Wait, so the loopable string thread actually was justified :eek: Give DrManhattan some props.
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