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Dope Dojo

Dope Dojo

The Bomb Diggity
I could see them increasing cool down on soul orb. Just because most combos that starts with it end with it being fully charged. Damage scaling on soul ball combos would just mean we'd have to combo into ex lift then end the combo in Soul Ball to go for our reset/vortex more.
 
Embestone

Embestone

Stoen
I hope they fix the hitboxes of ermac's strings. If I whiff another b1 or 22 while in their face, I'm going to go nuts.
 
14K

14K

Noob
Embestone said:
I hope they fix the hitboxes of ermac's strings. If I whiff another b1 or 22 while in their face, I'm going to go nuts.
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yeah it can be anoying, but honestly it doesnt really bother me anymore, i just learned not to put myself in a situation where that could happen =S But it would be nice if they fixed all that stuff, outside of clear low profiling no one should be able to duck under 22 or b1
 
Embestone

Embestone

Stoen
14K said:
yeah it can be anoying, but honestly it doesnt really bother me anymore, i just learned not to put myself in a situation where that could happen =S But it would be nice if they fixed all that stuff, outside of clear low profiling no one should be able to duck under 22 or b1
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Well, I guess you're better at adjusting than I am. Just played Tom recently and my b1 whiffed, allowing him to ex ice explosion or whatever the fuck is called. Has me hella salty.
 
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Embestone said:
Well, I guess you're better at adjusting than I am. Just played Tom recently and my b1 whiffed, allowing him to ex ice explosion or whatever the fuck is called. Has me hella salty.
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Yeah i got you, it trully sucks... but honestly i really doubt this kind of fixes will happen, they seem more inclined to "fix" balance issues than hit/hurtbox issues, take EX ice clone for instance, it has hitbox issues connected to the opponents breathing hitbox... to me that is just ridiculous, for them to fix this they would have to remove those animations of change the hurtbox position complitly, its super dumb but its a thing...
 
Embestone

Embestone

Stoen
14K said:
Yeah i got you, it trully sucks... but honestly i really doubt this kind of fixes will happen, they seem more inclined to "fix" balance issues than hit/hurtbox issues, take EX ice clone for instance, it has hitbox issues connected to the opponents breathing hitbox... to me that is just ridiculous, for them to fix this they would have to remove those animations of change the hurtbox position complitly, its super dumb but its a thing...
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They did it for jason and other characters, why shouldn't we get the same? Should we yell louder? As much as I believe its BS that its "By design" for the ice clone issues, I can't even imagine a way for them to argue that a mid is suppose to whiff on crouch blocking opponents.
 
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Embestone said:
They did it for jason and other characters, why shouldn't we get the same? Should we yell louder? As much as I believe its BS that its "By design" for the ice clone issues, I can't even imagine a way for them to argue that a mid is suppose to whiff on crouch blocking opponents.
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lol They " NRS " will give you the cold shoulder pun intended... The Ice clone is working as intended, there they are saying the truth, the problem here is not with the ice clone, its with the opponents breathing box, ridiculous... you can surely yell but i feel its wasted breath, now if you whine really hard and you won a couple majors already then your in their priority list...
 
fr stack

fr stack

Noob's saibot or noob saibot's?
hey ermac mains any of you guys on x1 cause i wanna learn some tech and play some good games so far ive only used mystic, gonna branch out soon tho and try his other variations i only got mkx on wednesday so ive lots of catchin up to do !!
 
BoromiRofGeo

BoromiRofGeo

Noob
fr stack said:
hey ermac mains any of you guys on x1 cause i wanna learn some tech and play some good games so far ive only used mystic, gonna branch out soon tho and try his other variations i only got mkx on wednesday so ive lots of catchin up to do !!
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what platform? im on a pc.
 
Themata94

Themata94

They're comin' outta the Goddamn walls!
Anyone have any ideas as to what changes could be made in the patch to increase the viability of Spectral? Should be very interesting to see what changes are made to it.
 
Themata94

Themata94

They're comin' outta the Goddamn walls!
I reached similar conclusions, particularly on the startup frames and strings. A command grab hadn't occurred to me though! Would definitely be a nice addition. The Mystic Tele-Hang or something similar would have been nice in Spectral too but that's pretty much out of the question, unless the variation gains an aerial equivalent of Force Lift.

Hopefully Mystic gets buffed too, it isn't nearly as pointless as Spectral is currently but it would be nice if we actually had a use for all 3 variations. Can't shake the feeling that MoS will still eclipse the other variations though, even if they increase damage scaling after soul ball.
 
Dope Dojo

Dope Dojo

The Bomb Diggity
If they do that we will just modify combos to end in Soul Ball and use it for vortex setups instead of raw damage
 
Themata94

Themata94

They're comin' outta the Goddamn walls!
True, I wouldn't mind it quite as much. I'd be much more wary of the prediction of increased soul orb cool down, as while I think you're right that it's something they might do if they think MoS needs to be normalised, it could result in a lot more of our approach requiring modification. Depending on to what extent it impedes orb regeneration in the vortex and how conservative we need to be when considering going for IA Soul Ball at a distance etc.

I'd like to think that they'd just test the waters with the damage scaling first, but I do agree that it wouldn't achieve very much.
 
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im just like meh... whatever happens happens, but you wont see them talk about nerfs, there are no nerfs on stream only buffs and "changes"
 
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Oh God thats it?... i really hope the spread sheet has something more interesting to show as in frame data cause if thats it...
 
Error

Error

DF2+R2
Spectral looks nice, his flight normals chain into a full string and he has ex charge with armor, Mystic got more damage on push and some changes to his combos, but no mention on changes to push recovery.
 
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Error said:
Spectral looks nice, his flight normals chain into a full string and he has ex charge with armor, Mystic got more damage on push and some changes to his combos, but no mention on changes to push recovery.
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I need exact numbers before i coment on anything, but seems limited... MOS still seems to be way superior to the others
 
Temjiin

Temjiin

www.mkxframedata.com
Error said:
Spectral looks nice, his flight normals chain into a full string and he has ex charge with armor, Mystic got more damage on push and some changes to his combos, but no mention on changes to push recovery.
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16% for push I think they said? To be honest, I think that warrants -25, that's really going to keep people in check.

Also, Spectral looks cool as shit! Picking that up immediately.
 
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