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Breakthrough - Boneshaper Boneshaper Shinnok is The Best Character in MKX

Braindead

I want Kronika to step on my face
you are right, but my point still stands. that's not zoning, you just can't zone him.
You can. Soul ball animation and travel speed is not easy to EX scoop on reaction at all. Not to mention that Ermac can fake out a soul ball with a standing 1 or standing 2 to blow up EX scoop attempts (that's from midscreen range).

Also from full screen ex scoop doesn't reach.
 

Alright RyRy

Florida Kombat
You really gotta bait the ball I'd say. Ermac flies under the radar so hard lol. 40% meterless and soul ball is probably one of the best combo extender in the game
When he has the option to teleport or soul ball full screen, I have to sit there and just block, I am at the defense full screen. He has no reason not to just throw soul balls out when he has 3 souls.
 
I don't think there should be an update every 3 months though, people are trying to get as good as possible with their characters just to find out they have to change their playstyle it's not right. I say update the game every 6 to 9 months at the most, don't force the players to have to relearn another character/playstyle like every 3 months or less.
 

SaSSolino

Soul Stealing Loyalist
If I can't throw projectiles and do a keep away game against a certain character, that means I am getting out zoned.
isn't being out zoned when you have an hard time getting in and not when you are scared to?
 
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Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
I'm not sure what you're implying with this. Nothing I said in that sentence reflects my own perspective.


IDK if these examples level out though, all of these characters get some damn fine damage or setups (if not both in one shot) without any meter necessary. Shinnok without meter only really gets that from his unsafe overhead.

Bone Shaper needs adjustments, everyone agrees to that, but the variation did in fact exist before the Dark Beam buff while the MB Hell Sparks were +24 on block and almost nobody had anything to say about it. Let's not push our luck and risk fucking over his other variations for good measure.
Take my dmg down 10% then

Give me that +24 and +14 frames on my shit w the level I use kenshi and lets see who gets pissed quicker
 

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
I also think people are pushing it by trying to make the Dark Beam less + on hit. NRS obviously did it so that his restand string actually does it's job. Does anyone not think there's not a correlation behind it being precisely +8 on hit up close?


i thaught u can armor or poke out of d4 hellsparks as but then what u said and took back my statement. thats all
Yes it does jail. Maybe not from certain distances but nobody can reasonably be expected to know when they can interrupt it in a real match.


These Shinnok Boneshaper downplayers!! I swear u guys are the worst. 'but his hell sparks is unsafe ' Yea it is but with the mind game of Shinnok delaying the MB can really make a player hesitant to punish.. d4 hellsparks - great footsie tool and jails and post MB Hellsparks is where Shinnok goes ham- chip and meter building rinse and repeat ... I dont give a damn what anyone else says I agree that BONESHAPER Shinnok is the BEST CHARACTER in MKX.
But they are unsafe, variation wide, and there ain't no "what if he MBs it?!?!" if it whiffs. That's not downplaying, that's just stating the facts.

Not to mention that, again, he's spending meter to build this meter, the process certainly isn't free of stamina, and once he's out of both, he treads on more thin ice than you ever do. Right now the problem is that he gets the meter in question too easily because of the presence of Dark Beam. Make it unsafe, problem solved. Call it a deal there.

Just remember Black Adam, people swore by the bible patch after patch that the safety of his divekick had to go or it's going to kill Injustice, regardless of whatever else NRS had taken away from him at that point, and when NRS did actually pull the trigger, the same people were like "oh... sorry guys.... guess he did need it.... poor Black Adam". And tried to use it as some weird trojan horse to get the game patched again, amongst other things.

I and a lot of other people could do without that aggravation for the next 18 months minimum. And I'm not even a Shinnok main.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
you are saying that pre buff BS was also op? because otherwise I don't really understand what your point is.
I'm saying id like +24 or +14 on block launchers too if they remain in the game to match the brokenness

I'm speaking about the +on block launchers in the game, did pre patch bs shinnok have +24 on MB sparks? No

So why would u think I'm saying that