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huh

Noob
I'm compiling a database of all relevant MKX tournaments, all around the world, and I really need the community's help.

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I have 2 subjects for discussion:

1) Categories of Tournaments (edit: this is ok now, see bellow in yellow).

All of us know that not every tournament has the same weight and importance. Here, we usually separate EVO from the rest, and talk about Majors, Regionals and Locals. However, that classification seems lacking a bit. Not every major has the same size/importance (ex: CEO is obviously bigger than Toryuken). And some smaller majors are often called regionals and vice-versa.

So, I think there is a need to at least make one more category to separate big and little majors.

It could be something like:

A: Grand Slam: only EVO nowadays
B: Big Major: CEO and others alike
C: Little Major (Minor?)
D: Regional
E: Local

F: Special Event: sporadic tournaments as ESL Finals, or any other that are not guaranteed to happen periodically throughout the lifetime of the game.

So, the question is: It is a good categorization system? And, how do we call categories B and C? Big/Little majors? Majors/Minor? Other?

Shoryuken as its own categories to make their rankings, but I don't think that is adequate to MKX actually. That's why I think it would be nice to have a system that fits our specifics.

EDIT: This is now defined. Not more Big Major/Little Major, instead, Majors are kept the way it always have been, and the Minors category is for tournaments that are bigger than regionals but not majos yet.

Now it is: Grand Slam, Major, Minor, Regional, Local, Special Event


2) Tournaments

Once the categories are set, I would like the community's help to elaborate a comprehensive list of all tournaments around the world on each category (except Locals, which would be an endless list).

In other worlds: what would be the Big Majors, Little Majors, Regionals in NA, Europe, CIS, South America, Asia, Africa?

That would be very useful for us to know that, and capture the properly dimension of tournaments in several continents compared to each other. It can help us measure the size of the accomplishments in other continents compared to ours, and properly value players that are not from our realm for what they've done. For instance, watching how well @A F0xy Grampa, @PND_Ketchup, @Nivek , @Madzin , @PND_Mustard and other Europeans were at EVO, it makes me immediately value much more the EU tournaments and give more credit to them than I've used to.

Could use some help from you guys.
I'll try to tag some people here (just out of my mind right now), but any help will be much appreciated:

@CrimsonShadow, @STORMS, @Tim Static , @Pig Of The Hut , @HoneyBee @A F0xy Grampa , @PND_Ketchup , @PND_Mustard , @GGA Dizzy , @GGA 16 Bit , @YOMI Reno_Racks , @ShinBlanka , @Tom Brady , @Hollywood DMS , @Digit , @GGA pimpimjim , @UltraDavid , @TONY-T , @ETC Mcfly , @EGP Wonder_Chef , @Mikemetroid , @Kitana Prime , @CheapEddie , @EGP_Compton, and any other involved with TO's or from any scene not represented above.
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So, I wonder if we could be able to elaborate that kind of list.
Could you contribute? Just post however you want and I'll try to gather the info and update the OP

Thanks in advance

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EDIT:

Current list of Tournaments:

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Grand Slam = big tournament (+300 entrants), high prize money, massive presence from several regions and international players, high level competition.

Currently, the only grand slam in the world is EVO.

EVO - North America

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Majors, Minors, Regionals

Majors = big tournaments with +150 entrants, good prize money, massive presence from several regions and some international, high level competition.

Minor = medium or big tournaments (100+), medium prize money, good presence from several regions, some high level players.

Regional = small or medium tournaments (up to 100), small/medium prize money, competition mainly from the region.


NA:
CEO (maj)
The Commonwealth (maj)
ComboBreaker (maj)
ECT (maj)
The Fall Classic (maj)
Winter Brawl (maj)
Final Round (maj)
Summer Jam (maj)
NEC Championships (maj)
SoCal Regionals (maj)
NorCal Regionals (maj)
EGLDallas (maj)
Northwest Majors (maj)
KIT (maj)

Toryuken (min)

Texas Showdown (reg)
MWC (reg)
Fightfest, Louisville, KY (reg)
Canada Cup (reg)
Absolute Battle (reg)
First Attack - Puerto Rico (reg)

EU:
Kombat Kup Finals (maj)
Dreamhack (maj)
Hypespotting (maj)
Viennality (maj)

VSFighting (min)

Red Fight District - Amsterdam (reg)

Asia/Pacific:
MKX Asia Pacific Championship (min)
BAM, Battle Arena Melbourne (min)
OHN, OzHadou Nationals - Sydney (min)
Button Smash - Brisbane (min)
Southern Cross Championships - Adelaide (min)

Other regions:
MKX Major Tournaments - Chile (min)
Treta - Brazil (reg)

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Special Events = not annual events, or events that are not in a traditional format (for example, online qualifiers)

ESL finals (offline)

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To be classified:
 
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Tim Static

Tim Static

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Evolution Champion Series is the Super Bowl of the FGC.

Majors: CEO, Winter Brawl, Final Round, Summer Jam, NEC Championships, The Commonwealth, ComboBreaker, SoCal Regionals, NorCal Regionals, ECT Throwdown & The Fall Classic

There is no mini majors, just regionals after that like Toryuken, Texas Showdown, Northwest Majors etc

Locals are everything from bigger locals Atlanta Kombat Arena, GGA Ghost Battle Series, 8onTheBreak to smaller locals like Epic Gaming League, That MK Weekly & VersusGameplay Weekly.

Don't forget things like ESL (and MLG way back when) are just special events. Especially w/ ESL being 90% online.

As far as outside of NA, not really sure. Would need some input from the Condiment Bros on that.

@huh updated my list of majors fyi
 
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H

huh

Noob
Thanks @Tim Static

So in your opinion all tournaments you've put under "majors" have the same weight?

For me CEO seems bigger than TCW for instance. I know it's common practice to group several torunaments as "majors" but perhaps one more category would improve accuracy. Don't know if in status and for a hypothetical rank, the winners of CEO and TCW have the same recognition. For instance Shoryuken have their system of calling Premier 12, Premier 5, etc.. which creates more subdivisions.

PS: how ironic is that NorCal and SoCal Regionals are seen as majors and Northwest Majors as regionals... ;)
 
H

huh

Noob
d3v said:
At least as far as the far east is involved. We did have the MKX Asia Pacific Championship which was 4 tournaments that culminated in a 4-way elimination tournament at SEA Major 2015. This is probably the largest tournament for MKX in the Far East so far.
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And that would be, in your opinion, skill-wise and regarding award's, comparable to what kind of tournaments in NA?
 
Tim Static

Tim Static

Adminerator
huh said:
Thanks @Tim Static

So in your opinion all tournaments you've put under "majors" have the same weight?

For me CEO seems bigger than TCW for instance. I know it's common practice to group several torunaments as "majors" but perhaps one more category would improve accuracy. Don't know if in status and for a hypothetical rank, the winners of CEO and TCW have the same recognition. For instance Shoryuken have their system of calling Premier 12, Premier 5, etc.. which creates more subdivisions.

PS: how ironic is that NorCal and SoCal Regionals are seen as majors and Northwest Majors as regionals... ;)
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Yea it's it any major, it should count the same as others, no matter how "big" it might seem over others. JeBailey does his tourneys different than anyone else, but still just a major.

Yea NWM is probably a major but it still feels like a regional. It's big but doesn't draw much outside of it's region.

And to anyone who has a problem with me on this, don't take it personal. I'm just calling them like i see them & how the majority of the FGC sees it, and calls them.
 
d3v

d3v

SRK
huh said:
And that would be, in your opinion, skill-wise and regarding award's, comparable to what kind of tournaments in NA?
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Dunno, you'd actually have to build a proper sorting algorithm for that like what we have on SRK.
 
H

huh

Noob
Thanks TIm.

I'll be compiling it in OP, and trying to establish something the least controversial possible as a list and categories. Always having in mind that, as @Tim Static stated, theses are personal views and nothing is set in stone.

Does everyone agree that there are no differentiations among Majors?
 
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H

huh

Noob
d3v said:
Dunno, you'd actually have to build a proper sorting algorithm for that like what we have on SRK.
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On a more subjective approach, do you have any guess? Just pick a tournament that you think is comparable to Asia Pacific Championship.

Smaller than EVO? Bigger than Combo Breaker?

@TONY-T , also what's your take about this?
 
Colares

Colares

Noob
I hope we can get at least these nine that Tim said, or the ones we'll get, and give seeding points at next evo so no more complaints of easy pools vs death pools.
@d3v Do you have any idea of how much seeding should be given and this things already worked out around at srk?
 
DreadKnight1

DreadKnight1

Beaten, by this mere man
VSFighting in Birmingham and this one other tournament at the Hog in London I can't remember are the only British majors I think. If I'm missing something someone add to this
 
Tim Static

Tim Static

Adminerator
Hollywood DMS said:
I'm on my phone at the moment so I can't go into much detail, but to answer Tim's question about Europe, Dreamhack is definitely a big Major.
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Yes, that was the one i was thinking of but the name escaped me.

Still feels like I'm leaving out a major here in NA.
 
H

huh

Noob
So, guys, if we assume there is no differentiation among majors, Dreamhack = VSF in EU? The winner of those would be awarded the same amount of points as CEO, TCW, ECT in a supposed world ranking?

If Dreamhack and VSF are not in the same category, one of them should be called regional.
OR, we establish 2 categories of majors.
 
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