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Tech - Brawler The worst matchup for Cassie..........

Well, we all know cassie is a pressure kind of character, she is in your face and a rush monster, best at close combat, but....... because of this she has Sub Zero, the best anti rush character in the game, as a character I have a lot of trouble dealing with.
He always uses that klone and if I try to shoot it, my opponent uses Ice ball and because of the lag in the animation of single shot, I get freeze and start to get a lot of punishment.I can get close enough to deal damage.

The only thing that works is my armored enhanced glow kick, but even so, its not the optimal way because I start to burn a lot of meter just to penetrate a clone that sub zero can create again. Any tips I can use for this annoying situation? I really want to Make Cassie my main and would like to really improve and be the best Cassie I can be.

By the way, I use brawler Cassie, sometimes I use hollywood but I prefer the over head take down for mixups
 
hollywood i dont think should have any problem with subzero, her instant air gun kills sub. When sub is afraid of the gun, her low gun or b1 should be able to get in. It will take awhile to get that IA gun though
 

GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
It's either Raiden or Kung Lao.

Raiden outranges her with the deceptive range on his normals and Kung Lao's EX Spin forces here to be patient whenever Kung has a bar.
 

Immortal

Blind justice....
Im pretty sure that Kenshi in balanced is a really bad MU for her, way worse then SZ. Played this MU extensively and she really has very limited options while i can just sit full screen and enjoy myself.

And if you by some miracle get close to me, my EX RK is already waiting for you and ... back to fullscreen where Cassie belongs.
 

Poto2222

"Online is your forte!" - A Wise Man, 2015.
Even though it sounds suicidal, just jump over his clone and hit him with j4 and you'll be fine. Of course he can use D4 to reduce his hurtboxes or do a NJK to send you straight to the Klone, but hey, it's still an option, so keep that in mind.
Also, both D+F+1 and B2 pass through the Klone, so you might want to use these attacks as well.

BTW, regarding that Balanced Kenshi matchup, all it takes is a single whiffed Tele-Flurry from fullscreen to get in and destroy him. Just be patient and wait for it, it will come sooner or later.
 

Immortal

Blind justice....
BTW, regarding that Balanced Kenshi matchup, all it takes is a single whiffed Tele-Flurry from fullscreen to get in and destroy him. Just be patient and wait for it, it will come sooner or later.
Yeah it will come just before the EX RK which will rekt you when you run up (full screen) from whiffed TF and try to punish + full screen welcome again. :) He's -53 after whiffed TF, so before you run up close he can easily armor throu anything you will throw at him. Also good Kenshi player just gonna mix you up in zoning (TF/TKS) + running up close -> grab / b3,2 / ex RK.

Just watch Pig vs Lars (ESL Finals) + several others.
 
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Poto2222

"Online is your forte!" - A Wise Man, 2015.
Yeah it will come just before the EX RK which will rekt you when you run up from whiffed TF and try to punish + full screen welcome again. :) He's -53 after whiffed TF, so before you run up close he can easily armor throu anything you will throw at him. Also good Kenshi player just gonna mix you up in zoning (TF/TKS) + running up close -> grab / b3,2 / ex RK.

Just watch Pig vs Lars (ESL Finals) + several others.
They didn't remove Cassie's B1, you know? It's still a thing.
Good luck trying to use armor when you still can't press buttons. lol
 

Immortal

Blind justice....
They didn't remove Cassie's B1, you know? It's still a thing.
Good luck trying to use armor when you still can't press buttons. lol
Right, coz when you actually gonna guess correctly between TKS and TF or SC you will probably have already a significant life deficet and even if you land a combo after almost perfectly timed whiffed TF (full screen) there is really nothing stopping me to just send you fullscreen again with EX RK into combo after it. Kenshi always have a meter.

No way this guessing game is in Cassie favor. Especially in Brawler.
 
And if you by some miracle get close to me, my EX RK is already waiting for you and ... back to fullscreen where Cassie belongs.
If Cassie gets really close to me, I'll be having rising karma too, if you catch my drift ;)

SZ is a bad matchup. KL and Raiden are fine. Balanced Kenshi is slightly unfavourable. Don't particularly enjoy the Boneshaper matchup too.
 

MrSoloLobo

I have a keen eye for all things broken.
I don't really have answers for this MU. It sucks cause she doesn't deal with clone well at all. I play it super patient and try to let the Sub hang himself. There is a lot of time in this game so never feel like you have to get to him.

I think she will have trouble against characters that can zone well or play keep away. I currently think Tanya, especially Pyro, beats her bad and from theory I think Hish Qu Ten Predator will dominate as well.
 

Poto2222

"Online is your forte!" - A Wise Man, 2015.
Right, coz when you actually gonna guess correctly between TKS and TF or SC you will probably have already a significant life deficet and even if you land a combo after almost perfectly timed whiffed TF (full screen) there is really nothing stopping me to just send you fullscreen again with EX RK into combo after it. Kenshi always have a meter.

No way this guessing game is in Cassie favor. Especially in Brawler.
...you do realize that ExRisingKarma doesn't solve all of Kenshi's problems, right? Not to mention it's -17 on block.
 

Immortal

Blind justice....
...you do realize that ExRisingKarma doesn't solve all of Kenshi's problems, right? Not to mention it's -17 on block.
It doesn't solve all of his problems but its good enough to make you guess if im going to wake up with it or not. Stops you from pressing buttons after combo and i can always wake up throw instead. It's just a good tool which makes this MU harder. Im not saying it's impossible, just that it's in Kenshi favor.
 

AK XEN0M0RPH

The lift is strong in this one
Im pretty sure that Kenshi in balanced is a really bad MU for her, way worse then SZ. Played this MU extensively and she really has very limited options while i can just sit full screen and enjoy myself.

And if you by some miracle get close to me, my EX RK is already waiting for you and ... back to fullscreen where Cassie belongs.
Ask pig of the hut how he feels about this match up.
@Pig Of The Hut
 

AK XEN0M0RPH

The lift is strong in this one
It doesn't solve all of his problems but its good enough to make you guess if im going to wake up with it or not. Stops you from pressing buttons after combo and i can always wake up throw instead. It's just a good tool which makes this MU harder. Im not saying it's impossible, just that it's in Kenshi favor.
It is not in kenshi favor. At best it's 5-5. Or cassies favor slightly
 

Poto2222

"Online is your forte!" - A Wise Man, 2015.
It doesn't solve all of his problems but its good enough to make you guess if im going to wake up with it or not.
That's basically how MKX itself works, this isn't an exclusive mechanic to Kenshi. The same can be said for every single other matchup in the game. Hell, even for other FGs. lol
But hey, you have a bar, so you can go crazy on ExRK, right?
 

Immortal

Blind justice....
That's basically how MKX itself works, this isn't an exclusive mechanic to Kenshi. The same can be said for every single other matchup in the game. Hell, even for other FGs. lol
But hey, you have a bar, so you can go crazy on ExRK, right?
No, just whiffing TF won't make Kenshi get rekt. Just making a point that the fact you gonna guess correctly TF and punish it doesn't really means that Kenshi is screwed after it. Don't be so melodramatic lol.
 

MrSoloLobo

I have a keen eye for all things broken.
Currently I think her bad MUs are GM SZ, Pyro Tanya and Summoner QC. Potentially HQT predator.
Agreed. There is probably more but I haven't played vs most of the cast enough yet. I know week 1-2 I hated the FA Jacqui MU a lot but everyone stopped playing her so I'm not really sure. Game was still really new back then.
 

Immortal

Blind justice....
@Immortal under no circumstance does Kenshi beat Cassie
Care to elaborate? Can be in PM if you don't want to post here. Coz it sounds like in your opinion he loses very badly that MU and that makes me curious.

Cassie community worst f ing down players ever
That made me laugh. Thou on TYM almost everybody downplay their own characters. Well, maybe beside Goro community lol. ;)