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Kindred

Kindred

Let Be Be Finale Of Seem
Icy Black Deep said:
No, don't care for that. The inputs for air-dashing when you're not already flying would be pretty crazy. Air dashing when you're already flying might help a little but I'm not sure it would be a big difference. Mobility is nice and all, but what's he doing from the air in the first place?
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100% agree.
His spectral version is a version that looks great on paper but practically just doesnt work. It's basically a butt slam move that can move in the air slowly. The punch and kick he does up there are useless beyond belief.

I don't know how he could get fixed but one way he could get better is if his superman move somehow popped the opponent. Like if it lifted the opponent in the air and dropped them to the ground while ermac teleports to the ground ready for a combo or something.
Or maybe when he is in the air, he can throw some projectiles to the ground. I dunno make him a zoner.
 
migosan

migosan

MK Philippines / Injustice Philippines
as much as im loving the latest soul blast "fix" so far, now that we have a decent wakeup option....nrs please buff mystic for the next patch, please give us what you gave balanced kenshi, i want to be able to properly space out rushers, (which is most if not all of the cast ahah), i dont mind lesser damage, just give us a faster recovery on telepush, as for spectral, i dont know, bring back the one meter build on air soul blasts? hehehehe might be the only way to make him viable hahahah
 
Temjiin

Temjiin

www.mkxframedata.com
Error said:
@zaf @Metzos @Temjiin what do you guys think could be done to make Spectral good?
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I've given this a lot of thought, it's a real tough one and would require a total revamp of the variation.

My thoughts are that Spectral would need to totally, completely dominate the air. The tradeoff being getting into the air in the first place is the struggle, so I would make fly a non DDU move and give it a new input with maybe a 40-60 frame startup. The design of MKX as a game means Spectral has little to no chance of working out without being either a specialist counter pick or straight up broke as hell.

In my opinion Spectral would need at LEAST 5 of the following whilst aerial. Take your pick....

  • Jailing plus frames
  • A normal that reliably hits low profiling characters
  • A level 1 soul ball (no stun) or some kind of projectile with a downward trajectory like Quan's air skull
  • Combo potential from a normal that can be hit confirmed
  • Teleport becomes an overhead so he has a mixup with ground slam
  • Ability to throw
  • Armour
  • Superman to be safe and not -1874738
  • Ability to block (this might be broke beyond belief but maybe not)
  • Ability to X-ray
Whilst Mystic should be all about the push and is a relatively simple fix to make it competitive, this is a real head scratcher.
 
Error

Error

DF2+R2
What if he could cancel his levitate for frame advantage off blockstrings like Sindel, while also having the diagonal fireball. I think with that, the ability to run/dash in the air for stamina, and a safer charge he might become good.
 
Metzos

Metzos

You will BOW to me!
Error said:
@zaf @Metzos @Temjiin what do you guys think could be done to make Spectral good?
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Lol, tbh with you i really dont know. Probably mobility, air dash, give him an ex superman being a relatively safe combo starter, just to punish heavily happy jumpers, armor on his air force blast and easier combo continuation after a successful hit.

An air diagonal projectile would be nice and probably an air throw. His SA normals should have more active frames as well.

All in all, i believe Spectral was designed as a high mobility variation, but it seems NRS failed somewhere along the road.
 
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zaf

zaf

professor
migosan said:
as much as im loving the latest soul blast "fix" so far, now that we have a decent wakeup option....nrs please buff mystic for the next patch, please give us what you gave balanced kenshi, i want to be able to properly space out rushers, (which is most if not all of the cast ahah), i dont mind lesser damage, just give us a faster recovery on telepush, as for spectral, i dont know, bring back the one meter build on air soul blasts? hehehehe might be the only way to make him viable hahahah
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Error said:
@zaf @Metzos @Temjiin what do you guys think could be done to make Spectral good?
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No clue tbh.

- Possibly the ability to air dash ?
- Being able to throw while in the air, or at least an anti -air throw while being airborne would be cool. Not sure what kind of effect this might have on the overall game though.
- His normals in SA are not really good at all. I believe they are all punishable. So you kind of have to always cancel an air normal into special. So maybe giving him safe air normals?
- A true projectile like quan chi would be nice.

I really do not know. I would need to have new properties be given to him and then test them extensively to give you a better answer.
Hawkgirl, seemed to work well in injusitce. She might not of been a top 10 character but at least her movelist / movement and her character made sense.
I thought that is where they were going with ermac, but he seems like an incomplete hawkgirl. It would be pretty cool as ermac, to be able to shoot an air projectile and if you meter burn it, it would pull you to the opponent like what hawkgirl did.
 
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Gutirriez

Noob
: I have question, say when your fighting jax or Liu kang and they do their special move cancel, but you're blocking the entire string; can you low poke out of it or do you have to eat the chip?
 
migosan

migosan

MK Philippines / Injustice Philippines
Metzos said:
Lol, tbh with you i really dont know. Probably mobility, air dash, give him an ex superman being a relatively safe combo starter, just to punish heavily happy jumpers, armor on his air force blast and easier combo continuation after a successful hit.

An air diagonal projectile would be nice and probably an air throw. His SA normals should have more active frames as well.

All in all, i believe Spectral was designed as a high mobility variation, but it seems NRS failed somewhere along the road.
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kinda like sindel hahaha, at least the hg experiment worked, so far i'm just thinking armor on ex superman, i totally forgot if it can be ex'd but yeah, armor and make it a little safer, more air to ground projectiles?
 
migosan

migosan

MK Philippines / Injustice Philippines
jharris said:
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the mk3 / umk3 ninja skins are my favorite, so far i like it, but yeah, like most of people in tym has noticed the face mask seems too big, it almost covers the whole face, and the texturing isnt that good when you compare it with the default skins here, but still i love it
 
Dope Dojo

Dope Dojo

The Bomb Diggity
@zaf Are you on PS4? I'd like to run some matches with you sometime to see how I fare against the more experienced MK players, particular one of the top Ermac people.
 
Zanxus

Zanxus

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My problem with klassic skin is that it doesn't fit his current image now cause of that idle stance. Ermac just looks very odd floating like that with the ninja costume lol
 
zaf

zaf

professor
Dope Dojo said:
@zaf Are you on PS4? I'd like to run some matches with you sometime to see how I fare against the more experienced MK players, particular one of the top Ermac people.
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Zanxus said:
My problem with klassic skin is that it doesn't fit his current image now cause of that idle stance. Ermac just looks very odd floating like that with the ninja costume lol
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hahaha yea... wish they made him just walk around
 
14K

14K

Noob
zaf said:
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hahaha yea... wish they made him just walk around
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STOP you giving the oh so busy NRS ppl to much work for free costumes lol... if they didnt give human Reptile they surely would not spare the time doing walking ermac lol
 
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