General/Other - Mileena The Mileena General Discussion Thread (All Variations)

Regardless if she is or isn't, being a bottom 5 character doesn't mean she's not viable. Viable but having to work more harder rather than less most of the time imo. Because Mileena's a character that's probably lower mid, characters like Kenshi, Shinnok, and Kitana are bound to get looked at for buffing before her. Most of that has to do with the players of those characters having a bigger voice or concern on the matter, but I think if Mileena is waited on to be looked at until later then she will be given justice when being buffed, rather than just being rushed or overlooked. For now I think it's nice that we discuss what can be done to help her but at the same time remember to nurture the growth of her current tools so that when she does get buffed, it will seem much more like an additional weapon than a "fix" or crutch.

I just found some frame traps. I'm going to make a video & show them to you.

Am I the only one that is super annoyed that you can't do her u+b, f1 air sai anymore in MKX? In MK9 one of my favorite things about Mileena was that air control that she had. Her instant air sais was imo one of the best anti-airs in the game and the fact that she lost that in MKX is bugging the hell outta me. I know she has major issues in general but frankly she was always a high risk-high reward character. I can work myself around some of her unsafety as I did in MK9. It's just that she completely lost one of her best tools that she had.

This may have already been mentioned in the 32 pages, but I just (re?)discovered that Mileena can cancel into air/telekick from aerial interactables. The two areas I've tried so far are the Dead Wood (she can cancel off the stump in the middle and the branch on the mid-right providing she wiffs the kick) and the Outworld Docks (the thing in the middle - works the same as the stump in the Dead Wood). MB versions work as well.

I'm on the PC and we haven't had the most recent patch yet, but I'm guessing you can now cancel them into x-ray as well...

projectzero00 said:

Am I the only one that is super annoyed that you can't do her u+b, f1 air sai anymore in MKX? In MK9 one of my favorite things about Mileena was that air control that she had. Her instant air sais was imo one of the best anti-airs in the game and the fact that she lost that in MKX is bugging the hell outta me. I know she has major issues in general but frankly she was always a high risk-high reward character. I can work myself around some of her unsafety as I did in MK9. It's just that she completely lost one of her best tools that she had.

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Yeah I miss air sais just like I miss her d4 but she got things in other areas such as EX roll.

Sami said:

This may have already been mentioned in the 32 pages, but I just (re?)discovered that Mileena can cancel into air/telekick from aerial interactables. The two areas I've tried so far are the Dead Wood (she can cancel off the stump in the middle and the branch on the mid-right providing she wiffs the kick) and the Outworld Docks (the thing in the middle - works the same as the stump in the Dead Wood). MB versions work as well.

I'm on the PC and we haven't had the most recent patch yet, but I'm guessing you can now cancel them into x-ray as well...

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She can cancel into it from all the aerial interactables except the ones in the corner. For example, the tree on the Lin Kuei stage and whatever that thing is on Sky Temple. Not sure about the x-ray though.

projectzero00 said:

Am I the only one that is super annoyed that you can't do her u+b, f1 air sai anymore in MKX? In MK9 one of my favorite things about Mileena was that air control that she had. Her instant air sais was imo one of the best anti-airs in the game and the fact that she lost that in MKX is bugging the hell outta me. I know she has major issues in general but frankly she was always a high risk-high reward character. I can work myself around some of her unsafety as I did in MK9. It's just that she completely lost one of her best tools that she had.

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You can do air sais still but they are just a lot harder to do with jump backs. You have to do ub, bf1 quite fast or if you have Input shortcuts on you can do:

ub, db, d, df1
Neutral jump, db, d, df1
Neutral jump, ub, bf1

A lot of inputs as it requires rolling the thumb/stick but these work for instant sais

Sami said:

This may have already been mentioned in the 32 pages, but I just (re?)discovered that Mileena can cancel into air/telekick from aerial interactables. The two areas I've tried so far are the Dead Wood (she can cancel off the stump in the middle and the branch on the mid-right providing she wiffs the kick) and the Outworld Docks (the thing in the middle - works the same as the stump in the Dead Wood). MB versions work as well.

I'm on the PC and we haven't had the most recent patch yet, but I'm guessing you can now cancel them into x-ray as well...

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I'm pretty certain you can cancel into xray from interactables.

This also reminds me is there any interactables that can be converted into a combo after using them? I know the swinging hook on the Kove you can cancel into roll but not sure about anywhere else

Wowbiggulps said:

Mr. Mileena also said on his stream yesterday that she is bottom 5

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Pig said she's 13th, your point?

Everybody has there own opinions of her. I'd place her outside of bottom 5 to be honest, but hey.

What's Takeda? Made top 8 at CB if I'm not mistaken, just because a character falls under this 'bad' category doesn't mean they can't compete.

Endding said:

Pig said she's 13th, your point?

Everybody has there own opinions of her. I'd place her outside of bottom 5 to be honest, but hey.

What's Takeda? Made top 8 at CB if I'm not mistaken, just because a character falls under this 'bad' category doesn't mean they can't compete.

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Takeda's and Kotal's placement in CB is proof that:

1. There is still a lot about the game we don't know.
2. Every character no matter what tools they have is dangerous in the hands of the right player.

theGabStandard said:

Takeda's and Kotal's placement in CB is proof that:

1. There is still a lot about the game we don't know.
2. Every character no matter what tools they have is dangerous in the hands of the right player.

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1.there is sssssssssssssssssssssooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much we dont know about mkx yet, the way some people are running there mouths how they've sussed out everything about there character and the whole game is general is really maddening to read.
sonya was deemed a shitter for alot of the start of the life of mk9....look how that turned out lol

2. yea i see your point but depends what side of the coin you look at, you could also make the point of people not knowing mu's this early or stuff like that so it makes a char look stronger/weaker (not trying to take anything away from anyone btw, just saying my opinion)

I want to be the 1st to officially announce to you guys in here that Mileena will be my new main moving forward.

I have always liked her & I will find the best possible way to play this character. I will be honored if you guys accept me into the Mileena community as one of you.

1man3letters said:

1.there is sssssssssssssssssssssooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much we dont know about mkx yet, the way some people are running there mouths how they've sussed out everything about there character and the whole game is general is really maddening to read.
sonya was deemed a shitter for alot of the start of the life of mk9....look how that turned out lol

2. yea i see your point but depends what side of the coin you look at, you could also make the point of people not knowing mu's this early or stuff like that so it makes a char look stronger/weaker (not trying to take anything away from anyone btw, just saying my opinion)

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I wholly agree with your first point, there seem to be a number of authority figures in a game that as of today is 6 weeks old.

The second point is valid as well, there are a lot of unknown matchups in this game so it can be seen in that way as well.

YOMI RM SaltFace said:

I want to be the 1st to officially announce to you guys in here that Mileena will be my new main moving forward.

I have always liked her & I will find the best possible way to play this character. I will be honored if you guys accept me into the Mileena community as one of you.

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Welcome to the Mileena community I look forward to seeing your playstyle with her. Which variation are you going with?

theGabStandard said:

Welcome to the Mileena community I look forward to seeing your playstyle with her. Which variation are you going with?

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I prefer the Ravenous variation above all the rest currently...Piercing is my 2nd choice.

YOMI RM SaltFace said:

I want to be the 1st to officially announce to you guys in here that Mileena will be my new main moving forward.

I have always liked her & I will find the best possible way to play this character. I will be honored if you guys accept me into the Mileena community as one of you.

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Welcome! Hope you enjoy your stay (and Mileena). I'm glad to see you're embracing Outworld's true Kahnum.

YOMI RM SaltFace said:

I want to be the 1st to officially announce to you guys in here that Mileena will be my new main moving forward.

I have always liked her & I will find the best possible way to play this character. I will be honored if you guys accept me into the Mileena community as one of you.

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We would be insane not to!

YOMI RM SaltFace said:

I want to be the 1st to officially announce to you guys in here that Mileena will be my new main moving forward.

I have always liked her & I will find the best possible way to play this character. I will be honored if you guys accept me into the Mileena community as one of you.

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That's really awesome!

It would be great to see our Empress get more representation in the tournament scene.

What do you guys do to cassie when you get a knockdown. Her ex flip is imo the best wakeup in the game. F1 can't stuff it because of how fast it is, it gives her a full combo, and she moves back so far that she can't get a good punish. The best answer I found is to back off and wiff punish it with an ex Tele.

Baconlord said:

What do you guys do to cassie when you get a knockdown. Her ex flip is imo the best wakeup in the game. F1 can't stuff it because of how fast it is, it gives her a full combo, and she moves back so far that she can't get a good punish. The best answer I found is to back off and wiff punish it with an ex Tele.

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prop better for the match up thread but how and ever.
yea ive been using ex telekick aswell, why aren't you fond of that? nice damage and if you dont have meter 13% into pressure isnt half bad.
roll can whiff punish but your spacing on it has to be so on point i dont think its worth the risk of the whiff.
ex roll will catch her before she cant block but i think ex telekick is better

1man3letters said:

prop better for the match up thread but how and ever.
yea ive been using ex telekick aswell, why aren't you fond of that? nice damage and if you dont have meter 13% into pressure isnt half bad.
roll can whiff punish but your spacing on it has to be so on point i dont think its worth the risk of the whiff.
ex roll will catch her before she cant block but i think ex telekick is better

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I just get really salty whenever I back off to punish it and they just back dash and get out of her of her okI so I just wanted to see if anyone had better ways to deal with it. And I'll use the match up thread in the future.

Baconlord said:

I just get really salty whenever I back off to punish it and they just back dash and get out of her of her okI so I just wanted to see if anyone had better ways to deal with it. And I'll use the match up thread in the future.

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ah right i get what u mean,if your just stepping back all the time why should they bother wakeup.
maybe try working of the 21u4 ender, that might give ya some more frames to fake out...or eh fake out the fakeout lol
i already dont have fun playing the mu though, fucking 5 frame laucher punishing all our shit

YOMI RM SaltFace said:

I want to be the 1st to officially announce to you guys in here that Mileena will be my new main moving forward.

I have always liked her & I will find the best possible way to play this character. I will be honored if you guys accept me into the Mileena community as one of you.

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Welcome dude! Your true Empress of Outworld awaits.

Baconlord said:

What do you guys do to cassie when you get a knockdown. Her ex flip is imo the best wakeup in the game. F1 can't stuff it because of how fast it is, it gives her a full combo, and she moves back so far that she can't get a good punish. The best answer I found is to back off and wiff punish it with an ex Tele.

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I haven't played the match much but essentially what you do is what I do. let it whiff and punish accordingly. If Cassie is cornered on knockdown and if I'm feeling super super SUPER on point I will go for F1 to stuff the wakeup (have only managed to do it in the corner but timing is hard so probably should block )

How would you guys feel if we split off into Variation general discussions?

Also, Ravenous mains...I need your help. I am trying to learn this variation (for variety). I know all the tick throw setups, but what are you doing for setups, how are you encorporating b12 1+2 (are you?) and what is your general gameplan.

From what I understand from my limited testing is I want to condition my opponent to block low and start abusing pounce so I can use my pokes, and my strings. 2~low pounce is a tick on block. 21 is a low. I see that as the only true 50/50 in the variation exclusives (sans ex roll mixups which are unversal). HOWEVER, I do see that high pounce is only -7 on block making it quite safe against a lot of the cast.

Am I supposed to be pressuring with strings and mixing on the high pounce at the end to make them respect it then go into low pokes?

Anyone have some ravenous gameplay? I see potential, but im still in the early stages of wrapping my head around the meta.