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The MKX at Combo Breaker 2015 Hype and Updates Thread

BROJOB

Noob
Tourney revenue has little to do with Streams
It isn't 1999, tournaments main revenue is from sponsors and the streams. Most of these sponsors paid good money to have their products advertised over the streams, and that's not even including the revenue from twitch. Guess who's not going to pay good money next time? The sponsors. Insuring your investments is business101 that most people here seem oblivious to, probably because most of you are in high school and sit on your ass all day playing video games.
 
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Eldriken

Guest
It isn't 1999, tournaments main revenue is from sponsors and the streams. Most of these sponsors paid good money to have their products advertised over the streams, and that's not even including the revenue from twitch. Guess who's not going to pay good money next time? The sponsors. Insuring your investments is business101 that most people here seem oblivious to, probably because most of you are in high school and sit on your ass all day playing video games.
What's with new members such as yourself coming in here making all these stupid fucking claims? You haven't been here long enough to insinuate a damn thing about anyone.

People wonder why some folks here are so harsh towards newer members. People like you make a bad name for them. -.-
 

BROJOB

Noob
What's with new members such as yourself coming in here making all these stupid fucking claims? You haven't been here long enough to insinuate a damn thing about anyone.

People wonder why some folks here are so harsh towards newer members. People like you make a bad name for them. -.-
So you have to have been a member of an online forum dedicated to Mortal Kombat to be able to have basic business knowledge? Lol. Education is more important than video games son and you're exhibit A.
 
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Eldriken

Guest
So you have to have been a member of an online forum dedicated to Mortal Kombat to be able to have basic business knowledge? Lol. Education is more important than video games son and you're exhibit A.
I'm talking about the claim you made about most people here being in high school and sitting on their asses all day playing video games.

Tenure here obviously has nothing to do with anything business related. If you want to talk education, educate yourself in the common sense department.
 

Take$$$

gotta take it to make it
Could be the pressure got to him. He definitely dropped some stuff against Alucard, but with how good sonic fox is I cant fault him too much for losing.

Also Dvorahs lack of wakeups showed pretty well this tourney. We'll have to find a way around that.
I've tried, but every time you try to wake up with something it's a prayer. P much all the good players seem to have figured out jumping on her wakeup makes it so she can never wake up with anything and has to block. I'm cool with that though, just need to guess properly and use 112 a lot more.
 

haketh

Noob
It isn't 1999, tournaments main revenue is from sponsors and the streams. Most of these sponsors paid good money to have their products advertised over the streams, and that's not even including the revenue from twitch. Guess who's not going to pay good money next time? The sponsors. Insuring your investments is business101 that most people here seem oblivious to, probably because most of you are in high school and sit on your ass all day playing video games.
The sponsors are not going to abandon Rick & CB because of something they had no way of predictin happen & something they couldn't be prepared for. Especially after CB has been one of the best Majors for getting Sponsors out there & advertised before the problems began. And no the majority of revenue Majors make is once again not from streams but from the people attending the event, multiple TOs have broken this down.
 
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Eldriken

Guest
Well either they're in high school and sit on their asses all day playing video games, or they have the education and knowledge of that. I figured there would be more kids on here than 35 year olds with the brain of a teenager.
Perhaps you ought to stick around longer to give yourself more time with the community before you start making claims? You're obviously not a moron, so why not act that way?
 

Shaazzyam

undefeated online evo champion
Could be the pressure got to him. He definitely dropped some stuff against Alucard, but with how good sonic fox is I cant fault him too much for losing.

Also Dvorahs lack of wakeups showed pretty well this tourney. We'll have to find a way around that.
have d'vorrah players heard about that blocking on wakeup tech yet or nah
 
It isn't 1999, tournaments main revenue is from sponsors and the streams. Most of these sponsors paid good money to have their products advertised over the streams, and that's not even including the revenue from twitch. Guess who's not going to pay good money next time? The sponsors. Insuring your investments is business101 that most people here seem oblivious to, probably because most of you are in high school and sit on your ass all day playing video games.
You obviously don't know much about the basic business model for this type of event. They make their money from sponsors and vendors who want to advertise and sell to the people who actually attend the event. The sponsors don't care who's watching the streams. The people there are the ones who spend the majority of the money. That's why the commercials on the streams are for third or fourth tier advertisers like the power protection and the crappy video games. The real sponsors want their info in front of the people willing to pay enough to travel and attend this kind of event. I guarantee you that if they're making any money off the streams at all, it's less than 5% of their revenue, and it's likely none of the stream money goes to Combo Breaker at all, but directly to the streamers to compensate for their time.

Source: I'm heavily involved in pool tournaments, which are a very similar scene to FG tournaments.
 
Now sure how business got in the conversation on a fighting game forum but the Streams have been terribly disappointing to say the least.

Constant dropouts of the stream, hiccups with the streams in the middle of the fights, wrong pools playing, fights being reported on the wrong Streams, etc. Name the failure, this Combo Breaker has it.

To me & this is just my opinion, Combo Breaker 2015, as far as the streaming & scheduling aspect of it goes.....it has been a complete failure & that's putting it lightly.

But still even with the streaming & scheduling failures this is a stacked tournament & the fighting & competition (when It's actually on a god damn stream) has been spectacular. I guess you can't win em all.

Shout outs to all involved with making the stream happen either way because I know It's hard work; just so frustrating when we can't see these gladiators compete reliably.

& YES I'M SALTY TOM BRADY LOST LOL
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
Such a poorly ran tournament, what a joke. DDoS protection isn't hard. Pick a better venue and hire a network administrator if the hotel won't let you set up basic firewall protection on their network. This is on the people running the tournament, not the people who were able to do it.
I'm going to skip past the part that no one actually knows if this was a DDoS, and get straight to the point:

So tell me, how do you protect a hotel's entire internet (which you don't own, mind you) from DDoS?
 
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Eldriken

Guest
I'm going to skip past the part that no one actually knows if this was a DDoS, and get straight to the point:

So tell me, how do you protect a hotel's entire internet (which you don't own, mind you) from DDoS?
Cue the Jeopardy music!

 

BROJOB

Noob
You obviously don't know much about the basic business model for this type of event. They make their money from sponsors and vendors who want to advertise and sell to the people who actually attend the event. The sponsors don't care who's watching the streams. The people there are the ones who spend the majority of the money. That's why the commercials on the streams are for third or fourth tier advertisers like the power protection and the crappy video games. The real sponsors want their info in front of the people willing to pay enough to travel and attend this kind of event. I guarantee you that if they're making any money off the streams at all, it's less than 5% of their revenue, and it's likely none of the stream money goes to Combo Breaker at all, but directly to the streamers to compensate for their time.

Source: I'm heavily involved in pool tournaments, which are a very similar scene to FG tournaments.
There was 30,000 people on the live stream for MKX yesterday for a couple hours. That's a ton of revenue and will bring in more money for both the tournament and the sponsors. Advertising to ~500-1000 people locally vs. 30-50k globally is a bit more profitable. Like I said, it's not 1999, and if you're running tournaments that way, then maybe you should stop being stuck in your old ways and get with the times.
 

BROJOB

Noob
I'm going to skip past the part that no one actually knows if this was a DDoS, and get straight to the point:

So tell me, how do you protect a hotel's entire internet (which you don't own, mind you) from DDoS?
You either, A.) sign a contract with them that allows them to have network access where they setup hardware firewalls, basic BGP routing, and DDoS mitigation temporarily for the event OR B.) pick a better venue than a hotel that already has this in place or will give you the control to do so. It's really not that complicated. But I guess to people on this forum it might be.